posted February 27, 2005 02:22 AM            

The HINDU
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005

Race bomb ticking: British party

By Hasan Suroor

LONDON, FEB. 21. As the immigration row hots up in Britain ahead of the general elections, expected in May, the far-Right British National Party (BNP) has warned that a "huge race bomb'' is "ticking'' away.

In remarks reminiscent of the late Enoch Powell's infamous "rivers of blood'' speech for which he was sacked from the Tory shadow cabinet in the 60s, the BNP chief, Nick Griffin, portrayed an alarming picture of the race climate, saying that the fact that not only the Conservatives but even the Labour Party had started talking tough on immigration vindicated his own party's
stance.

Endorsing Powell's warning that "rivers of blood'' would flow if further immigration was not stopped, Mr. Griffin said Powell "saw what was coming''.

"What Powell talks about in his rivers-of- blood speech — that wasn't an airy-fairy thing... .there's a huge race bomb in this country just ticking,'' he told The Independent newspaper.

Move to contest poll Mr. Griffin, who plans to contest the coming elections from the predominantly Asian constituency of Keighley, West Yorkshire, on an openly anti-immigration platform, said his party wanted the country to return to the immigration
levels of the 40s when there were barely a few thousand non-whites.

"We'd rather we were back in the position of 1948 where there were about 10,000 non-whites in the whole of the country,'' he said.

Mr. Griffin seized on the increasingly shrill anti-immigration rhetoric of mainstream political parties to reject allegations of racism against his party.

"The Tories and the Labour Party are playing the same game, raising people's willingness to talk about. They've broken the taboo about not having an immigration debate at election time,'' he said.

Mr. Griffin's remarks came as Labour and the Tories were accused of being engaged in a "bidding war'' over immigration after the Government announced a series of tough immigration controls to counter the Tory campaign calling for quotas for immigrants and asylum-seekers.

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Any Comments, anyone ??

ayubowan posted February 23, 2005 11:48 AM
The BNP in 2005 - spreading message of race hate.
The British National Party (BNP) has announced that it will be standing in 100 constituencies at the forthcoming general election. Their aim in choosing this number is to exploit election regulations and get maximum publicity for their odious and divisive views. They will be trying to get their message of race hate disseminated through election broadcasts, mail-shots and other communications. They will be targeting areas where they recieved a high vote in the 2004 European and London elections and where they have local councillors.

The last few years have seen a sharp rise in support for the fascist BNP. Between the European elections in 1999 and those in 2004 their share of the vote rose eightfold, from 103,644 votes in 1999 to 808,201 votes in 2004. This massive rise represented nearly 5 percent of the vote,
In the London Assembly elections, they also came very close to winning a seat.
In other words, last year the BNP came came within a hair's breadth of obtaining seats the Europen Parliament and on the Londn Assembly. The 2004 results were the highest electoral support achieved by any fascist party in Britain. They did not get elected because of the huge vote taken by the far right UKIP, which got 12 MEP'S and 2 London Assembly members elected, and the campaigning against the BNP.
The 2004 results represent the highest point so far in a pattern of growth in the BNP over the last 5 years.
Recent research shows the potential for this vote to grow further - unless the reasons for it are combated. One reputable survey conducted showed that 25.8% of repondents either voted for the BNP,identified with them or considered that they might vote for them in the future.
Surveys like this - which indicate a wider potential reservior on which the BNP can draw - show the unless the BNP is met head on through local capaigning and national action and by rejecting the racist myths that they propgate, they could make a qualitative breakthrough onto the national political stage. This is their aim.
The BNP is trying to emulate the growth of extreme right parties across Europe. In France, Austria, Italy and elsewhere far right and fascist parties have already made sufficient inroads to get enough votes to be elected to regional and national parliaments. Local bases were built as launching pads into the national political debate and, in turn, into national parliaments. As in Brtian, this rising electoral support is taking place in the context of increasing racism and the demonising of asylum seekers and migrant communities, in particular Muslims. Attempts to bend to racism to limit the breakthrough of the far right were entirly counterproductive.

The FBI posted February 24, 2005 01:31 AM
Did you say racist MYTHS?
MYTHS ?????

Hav you been to Colombo lately or what?

ayubowan posted February 24, 2005 08:26 AM
FBI
Yes I have been to Colombo Spent over two months in Sri Lanka and I Like it very much, ideed I didn't see any obvious broblems you may be implying to. I even endured TSUNAMI during my stay there. I am also in contant contact with some very nice people.
Further more I am already planing my next visit to Sri Lanka.

Only one very minor problem I discovered, while in Sri Lanka, People have a very high tendency to Exaggerate and jump to conclusions, consequently I have learnt to cope.
I intend to spend British winter period in Sri Lanka, may be one day I may bump into you.

The FBI posted February 24, 2005 09:57 PM
EXAGERATE, huh!!!!!!!!!!!

The FBI posted February 26, 2005 02:40 AM
Yo Ayubowan,
Do you know why people would want to EXAGGERATE RACIST MYTHS - you being in the U.K. should know, huh !!!!!!!

posted February 27, 2005 02:23 AM            

Yo, Ayubowan.

posted February 27, 2005 05:44 AM         

I wonder why?

May be you should talk about what you started to in the first place.

You cut and pasted about BNP
in Endland and ended up asking
If I have been to Colombo, Myths and about Kali.

Please tell me what you wish to discuss, Is it about Racism in UK, or have I been to Colombo, or about Kali, may be with bit of a luck your intellect may let you achieve
your original desire to talk about raciism. May be you like to ambush people and start name calling and belittling them. I am certain you are not the kind to stoop as low as that.

You cut and paste about Race bomb ticking: British Party.

I want to discuss about this important issue. you asked for any comment, I have given you my comments in good faith now it's over to you, try not to cut and paste, words from your head counts for more without insults.

posted February 28, 2005 12:41 AM            

"WHY DO BACKWARD PEOPLE GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO IMPOSE THEIR BELIEFS (Religious and Culture) ON OTHERS AS I AM EXPERIENCING HERE - DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

ISN'T THAT AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX ??

Sorry, for roping you in though.

posted February 28, 2005 03:58 AM         

ISN'T THAT AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX ??

Sorry, for roping you in though.

Dany B. Goode
FBI Special Investigator

Dany B Goode- FBI Special Investigator
--------------------------------------------
My advice to you is this- first of all try to be yourself, pretending to be something you are not, will breed inferiority complex leading to long term mental illness. This day and age religion is unimportant, treat others same as what you expect from them. Once you do this, you will find people are much more accessible and behave kindly towards you. take care, God bless

posted March 03, 2005 01:37 AM            

the negro race has come up in America after adopting Western Values.

Backwardness has everything to do with how one behaves towards others in

society.

Backwardness comes from wrong thinking or bad upbringing - ie. false or

idiotic values.

As the Buddha said "Right action will follow Right thinking"

It is idiots who start all sorts of competitions in the way one worships, and

that seems to be the problem with Backward People here in this country.

It is these very idiots who infilterate other Religions through the guise of

worship, but only to corrupt them - hence you can find all sorts of wierd

rituals in the other well recognised world religions : Christianity, Budhism,

and Islam in Sri Lanka.

This nonsense has to be put to an end or else the whole country will be

labelled Backward.

posted March 03, 2005 04:17 AM         

I am not so sure whether you hold some kind of backward prejudice or lacking in knowledge, or misinformed, you have ignored to mention Hiduism which is the oldest religion in the world. Buddism is not a corrupt religion what so ever, because it's origin is from Hiduism, therefore it's true and pure.

What you say is basic and elementary and ofcourse basically true. Ill-informed people create mythe, mythe sometime create dogma and insecurity. These "backward people" as you call it are nasty to everyone especially to the minorities and infirms. Calling people IDIOTS serves no prupose.

Better choice of adjectives will be a good start.

Slagging others only confirms ones insecurity, dogma and prejudices.

With your Fine FBI Investigative mind, I have no doubt you would take issue with lowlifes'.

posted March 04, 2005 12:54 AM            

First of all, Hinduism is not a World Religion.

Hinduism has a billion and one interpretations, depending on whom you talk to !!!!

posted March 04, 2005 12:57 AM            

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I did not say Buddhism is a corrupt Religion.

I said backward people are trying to corrupt Buddhism <- BIG DIFFERENCE.

Buddhism, Christianity, Islam have SOLID FOUNDATIONS, and do not have to rely on rituals.

posted March 04, 2005 03:58 AM         

1. There is no such thing as Hindu religion.

2. The following six religions are grouped together to classify as Hinduhism:
Jainism, Bugghism, Vaishaism, Saktham, Gowarran and Ganaphthyan.

You see what I mean, if you insult one you are insulting all including one's own religion. Only backward people resort to that I am afraid.

If you are still sceptical, I will gladly cut and paste a major research conducted on this very subject. After that I will withdraw from this topic.

How people worship is not an issue with me similarly People in Sri Lanka walk bare feet and eat with their hands and wipe their bum with their hand doen't make them backward or forward. I have no business in critising one's culture but to learn from them, of which westerners have done. One shouldn't be stuck in backward thinking it only creates prejudice, dogma and mythes.

posted March 04, 2005 04:23 AM            

Finally, Buddhism does not originate from Hinduism - that is a falsehood propagated by liars.

Do you want me to keeep repeating it ?

posted March 04, 2005 09:17 AM         

I have one last question for you- Why buddhist in Sri Lanka worship Hindu Gods in Biddhist Temples and they also go and worshp in Hindu temples too? Their favourite is Ganesh, Shiva, Kandan, Kali and Vishnu Etc. It's may be because Buddha was Hindu do you not agree?

The following article is from Geocities:-

Dravidian Religion

Of the five continents, Asia alone is the birthplace of the Major World Religions. Of the existing major religions, Jainism, Buddhism, Six-fold religion (Saivism, Vaishnavism, Saktham, Gowmarram, Ganapathyam, Sowram) and Sikhism were founded in India. Other religions like Israelites' religion, Judaism, Christianity and Islam were founded in Asia but outside India.

The common father of Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Israelites' religion was Abraham (Ibrahim). The Bible says that Abraham was from a place called 'Ur' 1, the Capital of the Sumerian Kings. 'Ur ' is a Tamil word for a village or a town.

It is said in the Bible that eight persons of the family of Noah, who is the forefather of Abraham, alone escaped from the flood since they were in the ark.2 When Noah's Ark rested on the mountains of Ararat, those eight people who were in the ark, started multiplying and moving towards other areas and their culture and language spread whereever they went.

"Now the whole world had one language and one speech. And it came to pass as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwell there."3

According to recent research, Sumerians were not the original inhabitants of Sumeria but came from outside and settled there. The following statements further explain it.

"At some time before the dawn of history, people whom we called Sumerians moved into Babylonia from the East."4

says George A. Barton.

It is given in 'The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia' that the Sumerians have cultural links with the Indus Valley culture of India as follows.

"The original homeland of the Sumerians is unknown, but there is no question that they did enter Mesopotamia from outside area. Their language includes many non-Sumerian words for basic economic concepts such as farmer, herdsman etc.,.......... One theory is that the Sumerians came from the mountainous region to the north east. Most scholars, however, believe that the Sumerians arrived via the Persian gulf, because the concentration of the Sumerian population in historic times was in what is now Southern Iraq. Early Sumerian history also shows signs of cultural links with the Indus Valley culture of India."5

It should be noted that Indus Valley civilization is of the Dravidians.

The teakwood from Chera country found in the place called 'Ur' the capital of the Sumerian Kings shows the trade relationship between South India and Sumeria before 4000 B.C. says Sayce.6 K.K. Pillai points out the trade relationship between Babylonians and the Tamilians noted on the clay plaques were found in Nippur in Babylonia. They also give evidence for the settlement of Tamilians in Babylon7.

P.T. Srinivasa Iyengar quotes H.R. Hall and further explains it as follows.

"Says H.R.Hall, 'And it is to this Dravidian ethnic type of India that the ancient Sumerian bears most resemblance, so far as we can judge from his monuments. He was very like a Southern Hindu of the Dekkan (who still speaks Dravidian languages)."8

Apart from these, there are ample evidences that show the relationship between the Dravidians and the Sumerians.9

Dravidian Memorial Stone

One of the ancient Dravidian worships that could be seen in the Dravidian religions is the 'memorial stone worship.' The memorial stone found in the Indus Valley worship is called Sivalinka . The term Sivalinka was coined in the later period (after 3rd c.A.D.) but this worship is very ancient.

In the term 'Sivalinka', Siva denotes God of love10and linka means symbol. Hence the term 'Sivalinka' means symbol of love or symbol of God11. The term belongs to a later period. It is totally misinterpreted and degraded by the Aryans as a phallic symbol, since it is an object of Dravidian worship.12

The Dravidian worship is the basis for the Dravidian religions. The Indus Valley civilization shows the Ancient Dravidian worship explicitly. In India there existed many forms of worship and religions. Worship is universal but religion requires literature, philosophy or theology. A distinction between worship and religion is made on this basis.

Indus Valley Worship

In the Indus Valley civilization people worshipped God in semiform (Memorial stone worship), female form, demigods form..... Many memorial stones called Sivalinkas (which mean symbol of love or God) are excavated in Harappa and Mohenjadaro and Ring Stones and symbols like Swastika etc., occur. Mother goddess worship or female worship played a significant role in the Indus Valley. Usually the goddesses and gods are symbolically represented by horns on their heads. Sacrifice did take place in the Indus Valley worship . Bull is often seen on the Indus Valley seals and trees are venerated as they are very often seen on the seals.13

Jainism and Buddhism (6th c. B.C.)

In Jainism and Buddhism, the memorial stone worship is known as Stupa. In memory of Buddha, Mahavir, and the Buddhist and Jain Teachers, they installed the stupas and worshipped them. Ayagapathas, snakes, trees and many symbols are there and are given a significant place.

Ancient Dravidian Worship

Reference about Ancient Dravidian Worship can be seen in the ancient Tamil literature known as the Sankam literature, which is dated between 3rd c.B.C. and 3rd c.A..D. and can be extended up to the 7th c.A.D. In this worship the memorial stones are known as Kanthu14. People offered sacrifice and worshipped God in female and male form. Amongst the gods and goddesses, Kotravai (goddess of Victory) and Velan played a vital role, and hero worship was prevalent then.

Six-fold Religion

Ancient Dravidian Worship was later on developed into Six-fold religion and the worship of Sivalinka is developed in different angles in these Six-fold religion.

The Memorial stone worship, the ancient Dravidian worship was also seen in the Dravidian religions which developed outside India since they are all the branches of Dravidian religion. Besides these memorial stones there are many more objects which have correlations amongst the Indus Valley worship and the other Dravidian religious worships which developed outside India.

The following are the Dravidian religions that developed outside India

The Religion of the Israelites
Judaism
Christianity and
Islam.
Israelite worship and religion

Memorial stone worship is widely prevalent in Israelite worship and it is known as a stone pillar in the Old Testament of the Bible. For instance, when Jacob had a vision, he took the stone which was kept as a pillow by him while he slept on the way, and set it up for a pillar and poured oil on the top of it, and he said,

'and this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, shall be God's house; and of all that thou givest me I will give the tenth to thee'15

A stone pillar stands as witness between Laban and Jacob.16
Before Moses went up on the mount Sinai, he built an altar at the foot of the mountain, and set up twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel and an altar.17
When the Israelites passed over Jordan, Joshua set up 12 stones in the midst of Jordan.18

Also Joshua set up a stone under an oak and the following verses explain about it.

`And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an oak, that was by the sanctuary of the Lord.

And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, this stone shall be a witness unto us; for it hath heard all the words of the Lord which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God.'19

Samuel set up a stone in Ebenezer and worshipped God.20 Hence, the stone pillar worship was widely prevalent in the Israelite worship.

Stone Pillar, Altar and Calf

Jeroboam, the king of Israel, set a calf in Bethel and another one in Dan and offered sacrifices upon the altar.21So in the Israelite worship memorial stone, sacrificial altar and Calf were present and these three are present in the Saivite temples of India.

According to historical analysis, the earliest instance for the form of worship mentioned above is found in the Bible from the period of Jacob to Hosea (approx. 1700 B.C.-722 B.C.), whereas the Saivite temples which also have the memorial stone, altar and calf are found in the post-Christian era.

Judaism

In Judaism, instead of memorial stone worship, temple worship is seen. Instead of placing a stone and worshipping God, they built a temple which was built of many stones and offered sacrifice upon the altar and worshipped God. In Judaism, a single memorial stone worship had developed into a temple and there are no stone pillars and the image of the calf inside the temple.

Indus Valley and Old Testament

Reference to the tree Moreh finds a place in the Old Testament. People gathered under the tree to hear the word of God. God revealed Himself to Abraham under the tree.22 Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beer - Sheba and there called on the name of the Lord.23 People made Abimelech as a King beside the great tree at the pillar in shechem.24 Joshua installed a pillar under the Oak in the sanctuary of the Lord and worshipped God.25 The bones of King Saul and his sons were buried under the tamarisk tree in Jabesh.26 People made offerings upon the hills under Oak, Poplar, and Terebinth.27

As in the Indus Valley worship, the figures with horns represent divinity, the horns represent divinity (god), ruling authority (King) and Teaching authority (Guru) in Sumeria and Babylonia too, says Marshall.28

In the Old Testament, the horns represent power, victory and ruling power.29 The loss of power, victory or ruling power were symbolically represented by the cutting off of the horns.30

In Babylonia, seals bearing the figures of deities with horns and in Palestine deities with horns have been excavated. Graven stones like Ring Stones which are found in the Indus Valley were also seen in the Israelite's worship.31 Many such similarities occur between the Indus Valley worship and the Israelite worship which observed the elements of the Sumerian, Egyptian, Cannanite .....worships.

Christianity

The Dravidian memorial stone worship as was found among the Israelites, attained its fulfillment in Christ and he is referred to as the living stone in Christianity.

"Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God's sight chosen and precious....
Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a corner stone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame "32

Referring to the 'Son of God' as living stone in Christianity leads to the ideology of calling everyone of us as the temple of God.

"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's spirit dwells in you?"33

"For we are the temple of the living God."34

This same concept is also in Saivism.35

Islam

The same memorial stone worship could be seen in the Islamic worship also.36 Amongst the five important duties of a Muslim, one is to pay a visit to Mecca and worship there.
The Encyclopedia Britannica elucidates;

Every Muslim who makes pilgrimage is required to walk around the Ka'bah seven times, during which process he kisses and touches the black stone ... Muslims consider the Ka'bah the most sacred spot on earth and they recite their prayers looking in its direction...37

In Mecca there is Ka'bha (or Qaaba) and a black stone (memorial stone) and, it is believed to be the Old Sivalinka. Malkani says:

"Also much of what passes for Islam is Pre - Mohammedan Arab tribal customs, Qaaba, says Syed, is believed to be an old Shivalinka."38

A person who reaches Mecca for worship he should change his clothes whoever he may be and wear only white dhoti and a white towel which are unstitched, go around the Ka'bha again and again and kiss the memorial stone as a mark of his worship. They claim that they worship in the way their forefather Abraham (Ibrahim) worshipped.

Scholars are of the opinion that wearing unstitched white dhoti and a white towel and going around a stone kissing and worshipping it, are the Tamilian or the Dravidian method of worship. Thus we find the memorial stone worship in all the Dravidian religions. There are many such historical links found among these religions since they are the developments of the same religion.

The term 'Dravidian religion' is based on the Dravidian race and includes all the religions which take their origin from the Dravidians.

Reference

Genesis 11:31
Genesis 8
Genesis 11:1 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
George A. Barton, Archaeology and the Bible, American Sunday School Union, 3rd ed., Philadelphia,1920
The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia - Vol IV, Goefrey W. Bromiley (Gen. Ed.) and others, Michigan, William B. Eerdmans publishing company, Grand Rapids, Reprinted 1991.
K.K. Pillai, Tamilaka Varalaru - Makkalun Panpadum, Madras Tamil Nadu Text Book Society, 1972, Pp.49-50
Ibid - P.49
P.T. Srinivasa Iyengar, History of the Tamils, (from the earliest times to 600 A.D.), New Delhi, Asian Educational Services, 1982, _Pp. 36-37.
(i) Ernest Mackay, Early Indus Civilzation, New Delhi Indological Book corporation, 1976 (ii) D. Devakala Jothimani, Origin and development of Tamil Bhakti Movement ( in the light of Bible) (in Tamil), Dept of Christian Tamil literature, University of Madras, 1993.
Thirumular Thirumantiram p.257
'Sivalinka Worship in Bible', 'Dravida Samayam', October 1994 - Research Movement for the study of Dravidian Religion, Chennai -23
Rigveda, vii : 21 : 5; and x.99.3 'Sisna devas'
(i) Ernest Mackay, Op.Cit., (ii) JohnMarshall, Mohenjodaro and the IndusCivilization Vol&Vol.II,Arthur Probsthin, London - 1931.
(i) Pattinappaalai - pp. 246 -249 (ii)Purananooru - 52 : 12-13
Genesis 28 : 16-22; 35:14
Genesis 31:41-48
Exodus 24:4
Joshua 4:9
Joshua 24:26,27 King James Version (KJV)
1 Samuel 7:12
1Kings 12:28-33 Genesis 13:18
Genesis 21:33
Judges 9:6
Joshua 24:26
1 Samuel 31:12,13
Hosea 4:13
John Marshall, Op.Cit., Vol.I, P.55
Deuteronomy 33:17; Micah 4:13; Psalms 92:10
Jeremiah 48:25
Leviticus 26:1
1 Peter 2 : 4
.I Corinthians 3:16 (RSV)
II Corinthians 6:16 (RSV)
Thirumular Thirumantiram 1821
.Gnana Robinson, 'Isravelar Samayam', T.T.B.C, C.L.S., Madras. P.62
. Encyclopaedia Britannica-Vol.5, Micropaedia, 15th (Ed), 1982.
. K.R. Malkani, 'Why a Separate Sindh', Indian Express, Madras, February

posted March 05, 2005 03:08 AM            

Man is therefore judged by his actions and behaviour.

And that is why the adherents of these religions are of various ethnicity.

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Hinduism is only practised by Indians.

Hinduism is based on Casteism and Caste Exploitation - without which it cannot exist.

That is why Hinduism is a Backward Religion, got it.

Hinduism as practised in South India is the worst form of Hinduism, and I doubt if it can even be called Hinduism as it's central character "Shiva" is not mentioned in the Vedas, from which Hinduism is derived.

That is why North Indians shudder to even enter a South Indian Kovil - Got That.

posted March 05, 2005 03:10 AM            

Man is therefore judged by his actions and behaviour.

And that is why the adherents of these religions are of various ethnicity.

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Hinduism is only practised by Indians.

Hinduism is based on Casteism and Caste Exploitation - without which it cannot exist.

That is why Hinduism is a Backward Religion, got it.

Hinduism as practised in South India is the worst form of Hinduism, and I doubt if it can even be called Hinduism as it's central character "Shiva" is not mentioned in the Vedas, from which Hinduism is derived.

That is why North Indians shudder to even enter a South Indian Kovil - Got That.

posted March 05, 2005 05:19 AM         

I am getting the best out of you, that's why I am speaking to you but no one else is.

Because of Mythes and prejeducies and I can see you are ruddled with it. I can also see you are filled with poison. Get a life man

I do agree there is a caste system in India created by Bahmins mainly to divide and rule that had nothing to do with religion. I am not interested in how many are worshiping, All I said was that the Hindu religion is the oldest religion in the world, it may be the worst religion in the world and who cares, nevertheless it still exist and still classified as the oldest religion in the world - get it.

As to people of south India, originally they were all Buddhist prasctised as merchants until the arrival of Brahmins, and it all changed after that, since arriving in Sri Lanka they became as Agrucultural Buddhist and still are to this day.

One thing I do know most of the Hindu gods including Shiva reveared by Biddhist in Sri Lanka, before you get on your high horse go and visit Buddhist temples in Sri Lanka. If you can't afford to do that, I will gladly send you digital pictures I have taken inside Buddhist temples.

I am still awaiting for your answer as to why Buddhist in Sri Lanka worship Hindu Gods
including Shiva indeed hated by Brahmins, including yourself. Do you know why shiva is not reveared by north Indians? but only reveared by south indians and Sri Lankan Buddhist.

- Buddha said no caste systems, then why Sri Lankan Buddhist have 10 castes.
-why? like Hindus Sri Lankan Buddhist don't eat Beef.
- and why Sri Lankan speak old Hindu language.

backward going, going backward Huh!!!!!!!!. One should clean one's backyard before embarking to clean others. Since you care so much why dont you Go back and clean up all the ills of Sri Lanka instead giving a lot of lip services. Sri Lankan living abroad are very good at that. It's the poor humble Sri Lankans living in Sri Lanka are suffering, all you are worried about what Hindus and rest of the world is up to.

Give a helping hand not a sticking hand.

You said you were suffering from prejuduces, if you want this to stop, you will have to stop practising prejudices yourself first. going backward, backward going Huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your writing tells me you don't like yourself very much and you also think others don't like you either. Ask yourself Why?

posted March 05, 2005 11:27 PM         

Anyways, I believe it's wrong to even call Buddhism a religion. Buddha would never have liked that. He would never have liked the Bo Tree, nor the Temple of Tooth. They are fundamentally against Buddha's teachings. He was totally against attaching ourselves to materialistic things, that include statutes, teeth and trees.

Prince Siddhartha became Buddha (enlightened) when he gave up on religion (Hinduism). Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Buddha give up on 'God'? He gave evereything up, because he stopped believing in God, and he wanted to find a way to ease people's pain, no?

Most importantly, Sri Lanka has no right to give more importance to 'Buddhism' (Buddha's teachings). Such an action is totally against everything Buddha stood for.

Here are the 14 Mindfulness Trainings:
1)Aware of suffering created by fanaticism and intolerance

2)Aware of the suffering created by attachment to views and wrong perceptions

3)Aware of suffering brought about when we impose our views on others

4)Aware that looking deeply at the nature of suffering can help us develop compassion and find ways out of suffering

5)Aware that true happiness is rooted in peace, solidity, freedom and compassion, not in wealth or fame

6)Aware that anger blocks communication and reates suffering

7)Aware that life is available only in the present moment and that is possible to live happily in the here and now

8)Aware that lack of communication always brings separation and suffering

9)Aware that words can create suffering or happiness

10)Aware that the essence and aim of a Sangha is the practice of understanding and compassion

11)Aware that great violence and injustice have been done to our environment and society

12)Aware that much suffering is caused by war and conflict

13)Aware of the suffering caused by exploitation, social injustice, stealing and oppression

14)Aware that sexual relations motivated by craving cannot dissipate the feeling of loneliness but will create more suffering, frustration and isolation.

See, SL does not follow most (if not all) of the teachings, so to say it's a Buddhist country is an injustice to Buddha's teachings.

posted March 06, 2005 12:30 AM            

and,

I am still awaiting for your answer as to why Buddhist in Sri Lanka worship Hindu Gods
including Shiva indeed hated by Brahmins, including yourself.

posted March 06, 2005 12:36 AM            

Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.,Etc.

OKAY

posted March 06, 2005 12:58 AM            

The Hindu

British Asians face prejudice: Blair

By Hasan Suroor

LONDON, MARCH 5. The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, has admitted that Britain's Asian community faces "prejudice'' but said his Government -----

I wonder why?

posted March 07, 2005 02:37 AM            

And, to point out to people (like you know who) who behave idiotically what repercussions their behaviour can have on others and society - even though they may think they are very Clever in their conduct.

I, therefore now conclude this debate, after having raised your awareness.

Danny B. Goode
FBI Special Investigator

posted March 07, 2005 12:30 PM         

And, to point out to people (like you know who) who behave idiotically what repercussions their behaviour can have on others and society - even though they may think they are very Clever in their conduct.

I, therefore now conclude this debate, after having raised your awareness.

Danny B. Goode
FBI Special Investigator

I am now headed to Washington for a Promotion.

FBI

Thank you very much for making us aware of BACKWARDNESS, we are now fully enriched and ready to face the world.

MYNA

You are correct in saying that Buddhism is not a religion. Buddhist People of Sri Lanka need religion that's one of the reason why they worship HINDU GODS and I don't think there's any thing wrong with that.

I respect everyone's way of life and method of worshipping, as long as it doesn't affact others.

People who go around denigrating others, in reality they are the one's who are backward.

posted June 03, 2005 04:15 AM            

Respect for animals does not mean we have to be vegetarians.

Go to Europe and see how humanely animals, brought up for meat, are looked after and even transported (much better than humans in Sri Lanka).

Now, go to India where they are supposed to worship Cows and see how they beat theses animals when attached to their bullock carts, and how they are abandoned in cities after they grow old.

Where is the Hindu compassion ???

posted June 03, 2005 06:35 AM         

"Look how they are beating animals India", you are a naive kutha. If they are working farm animals or racing animals such as horses are beaten relentlessly to gee them up, that happens every where in the world including your beloved uncle sam Bushes Country.

You are a KUTHA who likes to run one country or other down. Have you seen what they do to animals in Sri Lanka,I don't like to run Sri Lanka down but I have seen many, one in particular disgusted me was the infamous COCK FIGHTS, they Litterally rip each other apart, even though it's illegal Sri Lankans break the law and still do it. If thats not cruelty then I don't what is Bahan chod. Bullshit is what you must consume Kutta Salle

You put Buddhism as one of the three main religions of the world. Since when Buddhism is a religion, if it is, how can sane people pray to Buddha as GOD, when knowingly he impovrished his wife by abandoning her and left her to her own devices, no doubt she beged and borrowed to live in Backward country like INDIA!!!. Kutta- that is CRUETLY in my book.

As for christianity, bahan chod read old testaments, then only you will realise what cruelty means. In my book without Judaism world would not have Christianity or Islam. In my book without Hinduism world would not have Buddhism philosaphy not a religion as you would like to beleive it in ignorance, Bahan chod put that in your pipe or where ever and smoke it.

Running India down is not going to help Sri Lankans course, moreover it will only hinder, Bahan chod you may not know this but there are 50,000 Sri Lankan ELITES are working not bumming in Banaglore,INDIA alone, if it was a backward country then, what the fuck are they doing there, incidently Bangalore is the largest, I repeat LARGEST Silicon Valley In the world employing over 900,000.

There are many International Companies especially from your uncle sam's country are moving to India in particular to BANGALORE, to tap into it's talents. Kutha you seem to be doing your research in a cookoo land, get your head examined- SALLE!!! backward my foot.

There are many problems in india such as child marraiges, caste systems etc because its a very an old some say the oldest civilisation and it will take time. Even with all it's problems, India is the 4th Largest economy in Asia, I bet that will make you jealous BAHAN CHOD.

Your narrow minded jealousy, bigotry etc not going to make one iota of difference, besides everyone except you knows, without India Sri Lanka will be in a QUANDARY.

You spoke about maharajhs most of what you said about IT was from your backside, this WAS A little insignificant shit MAKES NO ODDS is it-KUTHA.

posted June 04, 2005 03:29 AM            

Correct.

posted June 04, 2005 07:53 AM         

Buddha's teaching

Buddha tought me that- PERMANENT PEACE WILLCOME TO YOU WHEN YOU HAVE COMPLETELY ERADICATED GREED - HATRED AND DELUSION.

FBI Kutha- you suffer from all of these three sins and more. You cannot call yourself Bddhist while your are doing research on how to pass waste matters orally. You cannot call yourself buddhist either in your present state of mental decline.

Respect for animals means no killing and eating Bahan Chod.

"Look how they are beating animals in India", you are a naive kutha. If they are working farm animals or racing animals such as horses are beaten relentlessly to gee them up, that happens every where in the world including your beloved uncle sam Bushes Country.

You are a KUTHA who likes to run one country or other down. Have you seen what they do to animals in Sri Lanka,I don't like to run Sri Lanka down but I have seen many, one in particular disgusted me was the infamous COCK FIGHTS, they Litterally rip each other apart, even though it's illegal Sri Lankans break the law and still do it. If thats not cruelty then I don't what is Bahan chod. Bullshit is what you must consume Kutta Salle

You put Buddhism as one of the three main religions of the world. Since when Buddhism is a religion, if it is, how can sane people pray to Buddha as GOD, when knowingly he impovrished his wife by abandoning her and left her to her own devices, no doubt she beged and borrowed to live in Backward country like INDIA!!!. Kutta- that is CRUETLY in my book.

As for christianity, bahan chod read old testaments, then only you will realise what cruelty means. In my book without Judaism world would not have Christianity or Islam. In my book without Hinduism world would not have Buddhism philosaphy not a religion as you would like to beleive it in ignorance, Bahan chod put that in your pipe or where ever and smoke it.

Running India down is not going to help Sri Lankans course, moreover it will only hinder, Bahan chod you may not know this but there are 50,000 Sri Lankan ELITES are working not bumming in Banaglore,INDIA alone, if it was a backward country then, what the fuck are they doing there, incidently Bangalore is the largest, I repeat LARGEST Silicon Valley In the world employing over 900,000.

There are many International Companies especially from your uncle sam's country are moving to India in particular to BANGALORE, to tap into it's talents. Kutha you seem to be doing your research in a cookoo land, get your head examined- SALLE!!! backward my foot.

There are many problems in india such as child marraiges, caste systems etc because its a very old and some say the oldest civilisation and it will take time. Even with all it's problems, India is the 4th Largest economy in Asia, I bet that will make you jealous BAHAN CHOD.

Your narrow minded jealousy, bigotry etc not going to make one iota of difference, besides everyone except you knows, without India Sri Lanka will be in a QUANDARY.

You spoke about maharajhs most of what you said about IT was from your backside, this WAS A little insignificant shit MAKES NO ODDS is it-KUTHA.