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Burt1310 posted December 16, 2004 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Burt1310     Edit Message
Read this article if u have time.

SRI LANKA BETTER WAKE UP. IF THEY DO DECIDE TO WRITE THE CONSTITUTION A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT WOULD BE TO SEPERATE STATE AND RELIGION.

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Anaconda posted December 16, 2004 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anaconda   Click Here to Email Anaconda     Edit Message
There is a difference between a person wearing a yellow robe and a true Buddhist monk. Most of the time people try to use the Buddhism to judge what people in yellow robes should or should not be doing without understanding that difference and find themselves in an unexplainable situation.

Some militant groups like to name themselves freedom fighters and some people in yellow robes like to call themselves as Buddhists. Both are playing for the audience who’s vision is blinded by being narrow minded.

The Buddhism that I came to know can’t create any of the circus atmosphere that we see today. If yesterday is indicative of what tomorrow will be, we haven’t seen the bottom yet. I feel like Ven Soma’s movement is being hijacked by JHU and people have no clue about it.

There is this old saying, when pigs are cracking almonds it is party time for wild birds.

Burt1310 posted December 16, 2004 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Burt1310     Edit Message
I do agree with you on this: but that is the sad reality. It does not matter that 90% of the population are hardworking god fearing people, when they chose to be silent the only people heard would be the 10% hypocrits and 100% of the population is judged accordingly.

This is why I try my best to ignore people with extreem views. Answering them gives a forum to spread hatred.

Anaconda posted December 16, 2004 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anaconda   Click Here to Email Anaconda     Edit Message
Perhaps it is the natural law, the majority of us have chosen to be silent and experience the hardship generated by so few. The things that we do when we are isolated is very different from when are with many others. Therefore the natural tendency is a negative outcome for everyone. I can’t grasp it. Does that mean we are governed by our own insecurities (meaning we have chosen to be silent due to a reason) or bad behavior of a few?

Sri Lanka has so many things going against her, not only we are multinational, multi religious, political, small, and poor (both values and material). We have not done well to exploit our differences for our advantage but to destroy one another.

Today the west is saying, steal our jobs and make your lives better. Our leaders have no clue. Perhaps it is easier to see when ‘others’ enjoy things than our ‘own’.

I should also take some blame for it since I have chosen not to be a part of the solution for my own convenience.

Amaran posted December 16, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amaran     Edit Message
60,000 `disappear' in Sri Lanka
Little has been done about tactic over last 30 years Crimes won't be addressed until civil war truly ends


AARON GOODMAN
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

COLOMBO—In the war-ravaged northeast of Sri Lanka, an aging Tamil father sits on the floor of a Hindu temple, waiting to meet an exuberant, seemingly tireless oracle.

The oracle — a hefty, middle-aged man dressed in a red and gold sari — holds up a wand and rocks his head back and forth as if in a violent spell.

Finally, the oracle draws three lines — ash, yellow and red — across the father's forehead.

"You want me to tell you about your son," says the oracle.

"He's alive. Someone is keeping him in the south of the country. When he turns 29, he'll be all right.

"Don't worry, I'll give you back your son."

With the oracle's news, the father, Kumaran, covers his face with his hands and begins to weep.

Fourteen years ago, his 18-year-old son was arrested, along with 157 other Tamil youths by the Sri Lankan army at Eastern University.

None of those who were arrested has ever been seen or heard or from again — like so many others during the civil war that has gripped Sri Lanka for most of the last 20 years.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) have been fighting for a separate homeland in the northeast of the country.

More than 65,000 people have died in the conflict — and some 200,000 Sri Lankans have moved to Canada as a result of the war.

But there is an insidious part of the conflict about which little has been reported. Over the last 30 years, security forces and the LTTE have "disappeared" an estimated 60,000 people.

Only one other country in modern history, Peru, has had more people go missing.

Security forces first disappeared 30,000 people in the late 1980s as they crushed a radical Marxist rebellion in the south of the country.

And throughout the civil war in the northeast, the police and army have disappeared thousands of Tamils.

Yet only a handful of low and junior-ranking officials have been held accountable for these crimes.

Many in the chain of command responsible for disappearances, both in government and the military, still hold positions of power.

In February 2002, the Sri Lankan government and the LTTE signed a ceasefire agreement.

But a year and a half ago, the Tigers walked away from negotiations, claiming their demands for self-government were not being addressed.

Since then, Norwegian mediators have tried, but failed, to bring the parties back to the negotiating table.

Meanwhile, the country hovers on the edge of renewed fighting.

LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran says the rebels are running out of patience and are prepared to go back to war.

Even if peace talks resume, it is unlikely that disappearances will be addressed any time soon.

According to Jehan Perera, director of the National Peace Council in Colombo, a respected non-governmental organization that supports the peace process, the issue of the missing will be dealt with only when there is a legitimate end to the war.

"There must be a beginning of disarmament within the military and the LTTE," Perera says.

"It is only at that stage that we will be able to address more seriously the issue of disappearances — only when there is a lasting political solution to the ethnic conflict.

"Prior to that, it's going to be very difficult."

In the meantime, thousands of family members, including Kumaran, continue to search for answers about the fate of their missing loved ones.

At Eastern University, 20 kilometres from the northeastern town of Batticaloa, rector Thangamuthu Jayasingam recalls the events that led to the disappearances at the school 14 years ago.

"The military ordered everyone on the campus to line up in rows, and masked men identified those who were taken aside," he says.

"They were gagged and their hands were tied behind their backs. After that, they were put on buses and taken away.

"The army said they would be released as soon as they were questioned, but it's been 14 years, and so far nothing has happened."


After consulting the oracle, Kumaran visits a nearby Hindu temple that is conducting its annual fire-walking ceremony.

According to local custom, walking across fire is the ultimate act of spiritual purification.

For Kumaran, it is a chance to pray for his son to come home.

Since sunrise, dozens have men have been reducing a roaring blaze into a path of burning hot coals.

Kumaran waits at the front of a line of hundreds of worshippers preparing to step through the embers. Lifting a coconut over his head — a symbol of his devotion — he sets off lightly and speedily over the coals.

When he reaches the other side, his body trembles and he repeats prayers under his breath.

Moving back to the front of the line, he repeats his fire walk and then repeats the process a third and final time.

Outside the temple, Kumaran describes his experience walking over the fire and what he was praying for.

"For the past 14 years, I haven't had any information about my son," he says. "But I still believe I can get him back. Today, I walked across the fire three times, but I didn't feel a thing.

"I prayed to God to give me back my son. Wherever my son is, he has to come back and join us in our prayers."

Whether his son will ever come home is unclear, and if these rituals really help, no one can truly say.

But with thousands of people still missing, the task of building a lasting peace in the country seems incredibly daunting.

Amaran posted December 16, 2004 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amaran     Edit Message
Toronto: 'Human Rights Watch' got a failing grade for its latest report


Ms.Joe Becker, the author of the Latest 'Human Rights Watch' report titled "Living In Fear: Child Soldiers and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka":

Ms.Joe Becker, the author of the Latest 'Human Rights Watch' report titled "Living In Fear: Child Soldiers and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka was in Toronto last night presenting her report. In spite of the snowy weather conditions, over two hundred people attended the event. However, it became apparent with in minutes from the start of the presentation that the overwhelming majority of the people attended the event only to register their outrage with regards to the flaws and bias apparent in the report.

"My first year university essays had much stricter acceptance criteria. I would've received a failing grade had I handed in a report of this standard", said one of the people spoke from the audience.

Fmr.Ontario Premier Hon. Bob Rae: "...stressed the need for federalism and pluralism..."

"Where is the science in this research? Since when did it become acceptable for organizations like the Human Rights Watch to release reports solely based on anecdotes?" blasted another.


"So, you think you care more about our children than we ourselves do. How dare you offend us like that", came another cry.

The challenges kept coming Ms.Becker's way through out the night. Ms.Becker looked dumbfounded by these never ending, to the point, questions.

The crowd also protested the fact that the organizers did not have a single speaker from the Tamil community at the panel. Making things worse to Ms.Becker was her comments to GlobeAndMail last week claiming that no one from the community was willing to sit at the panel.

"There are 200.000 Tamil Canadians in Toronto, there are five 24 hour Tamil radio stations, there are 3 Tamil Television stations, there are 22 Tamil weekly newspapers, and you are telling us that you couldn't find a single representative from the community to sit at the pannel?" Ms.Becker was challenged.


What was apparent through out the night was that Ms.Becker did not have a valid response to any one of these questions. Many in the audience felt that the report was written from an office, some place far away from the epicenter, without collecting the required data.

As the questions kept coming and Ms.Becker couldn't provide answers, it was decided by the organizers to pack up prematurely. The panelist Abruptly left the room in a rush with out making them available to any public interaction.

Over all, the Human Rights Watch received a failing grade on its latest report

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Amaran posted December 16, 2004 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amaran     Edit Message
Crocodile Tears: A Performance by Jo Becker


Lights! Camera! Action! And as if previously rehearsed to the tee, Jo Becker of the Human Rights Watch (HRW) took the podium at the Scarborough Civic Centre on Sunday night to present her “report” on the issue of children’s rights in Sri Lanka. Ms. Becker’s presentation and her “report,” was not a genuine attempt to capture the state of children’s rights in Sri Lanka, but rather, it exploited children’s rights to denigrate the Tamil community in Canada and vilify the Liberation Tigers. Members of the Tamil community that were present at the meeting expressed their disgust and disappointment over Ms. Becker’s shameless exploitation and politicization of the war-affected Tamil children.

Upon learning that there was no Tamil representation on the panel, the Tamils present at the meeting protested against proceeding with the meeting. An HRW flyer that was circulated weeks ahead of the meeting indicated that a representative from the Tamil community would be on the panel. Many of the attendees demanded that the chair explain the misleading information supplied by the HRW. “I would ask you Mr. Chair, if you can justify why you do not have a single Tamil representative representing (on the panel) the concerns of the community,” said one well-known and well-respected Tamil social worker.

Ms. Becker’s response, which she gave later in the meeting, was that she could not find a single person in the nearly 300,000-strong Tamil community in the whole of Canada who was “non-partisan.” Attendees reacted with fury to her comment. Ms. Becker’s failure to have a single Tamil person present on the panel reflects poorly on the research methods and the sort of efforts that were invested in learning about and engaging the Tamil Canadian community. Such sloppiness also speaks loudly on the sort of meticulous, leave-no-stone-unturned effort employed by Ms. Becker in finding her “facts” in her “report.”

Attendees were clearly annoyed with the duplicity with which Ms. Becker commented on “non-partisanship” and yet, release a report soaked with partisanship. The bias was evident in the recommendations made in her report. Having noted in her report that abject poverty was one of the causes for children seeking to join the Liberation Tigers, Ms. Becker makes no recommendation for the need for alleviation of the poverty induced by the protracted war. The report contained no recommendations whatsoever over the responsibility of the Government of Sri Lanka to address the poverty that drives Tamil youths to knock at the doors of the Liberation Tigers. There was no mention of the obligations of the Government of Sri Lanka to the Action Plan that it had agreed on with UNICEF and the Liberation Tigers. There was no mention of the repeated commitments made by the Government to high ranking UN officials to improve the conditions for children in Northeastern Sri Lanka. Instead, all her recommendations were singularly aimed at weakening and isolating the Liberation Tigers and the Tamil people. And the report is replete with many such instances.

In the miniscule time that was allotted for questioning, attendees challenged and questioned Ms. Becker. Attendees questioned the methodology used in conducting her research. Upon her failure to give a credible answer, another attendee slammed her report saying that his first year university essays had much stricter acceptance criteria. He said that he would have received a failing grade had he handed in a report of this standard. Another attendee challenged Ms. Becker to furnish her interviews in the full and original versions. Ms. Becker sidestepped the question and is sill to respond to the challenge.

Attendees also slammed Ms. Becker over the sources used in her reports. Many of the attributed sources are virulently anti-Tamil and are well known propagandists with little or no credibility. One revealing aspect of Ms. Becker’s report is that all the sources that were not attributed, conveniently had opinions that were all critical of the Liberation Tigers. It is baffling that in all of Ms. Becker’s thorough research in the East, she doesn’t run across one single opinion from one single non-governmental organization that even remotely casts the Liberation Tigers is positive light. This forces one to wonder if she deliberately excluded opinions and anecdotes that cast the Liberation Tigers in a positive light.

To add to Ms. Becker’s array of insults targeted at the Tamil community was the presence of the Toronto Police Force. The domineering presence of six officers with visibly holstered guns at the event made for some unease.

Given the seriousness of the allegations and questions circling around about the impartiality of Ms. Becker’s particular report, it is incumbent on the author to publicize all supporting evidences of letters, unabridged interviews in the original language(with identities protected of course), and all related documents.

Also sitting on the Panel was Forum of Federations’ Hon. Bob Rae. Speaking at the podium, Mr. Rae said that obviously this was a deeply emotional question for the community.

Further commenting on the political needs in Sri Lanka, Mr. Rae said, “There has to be serious substantial change in the political structure of Sri Lanka. A state which does not recognize minority rights, which does not recognize the existence of a Tamil community which has a history and had experienced serious, dramatic, painful, hurtful, and destructive discrimination over a long period of time and a nation which does not which does not come to terms with that conflict which has been in its heart for a very long time will not have the ability to, in my view, to have a prosperous or stable future for all its people.”

The meeting ended with one Tamil not having time to express his opinion. This was inspite of the assurances by the chairman and HRW officials that they would give time to hear everyone’s concerns.

Kandyan posted December 16, 2004 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kandyan   Click Here to Email Kandyan     Edit Message
"IF THEY DO DECIDE TO WRITE THE CONSTITUTION A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT WOULD BE TO SEPERATE STATE AND RELIGION."

I agree. Why am I the only Sinhalese on this forum who has asked for a clear seperation of Church and State? The real problems underlying the ethnic conflict have not gone away in over 50 years. And yet the Sinhalese nationalists choose only to focus on equating the LTTE with terrorism. Even if the LTTE were to dissolve, many problems would exist... an example is the corruption rampant in the Sinhalese (both PA and UNP side) government. Much of the Sinhalese lower class, even in Colombo, still cannot speak English. Drugs, child prostitution, and crime are other issues that need to dealt with. In my perspective, instead of fighting for some land whose populace is less than 1% Sinhalese anyway, the Sri Lankan government should allow Eelam to exist, and focus on the far more pressing problems in the Sinhalese South.

Anaconda posted December 16, 2004 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anaconda   Click Here to Email Anaconda     Edit Message
You are faking to be a Sinhalese.

What is the sinhala word for 'perspective'?

Anaconda posted December 17, 2004 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anaconda   Click Here to Email Anaconda     Edit Message
Failed again

The days of fooling people are over. Read reports coming from Canada against LTTE.

"What is the sinhala word or 'perspective'? "

Kandyan posted December 17, 2004 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kandyan   Click Here to Email Kandyan     Edit Message
As soon as you give me the sutra reference to where Buddha says devas worship humans, and the URL that says LTTE killed more than 10,000 Tamils over the past 10 years, I will give you the Sinhalese word for "perspective."

"In Buddhism, it is deva who worship humans and not vice versa.
Why? Any Buddhist can answer this simple question."

"I am not sure what Sutta it came from, this is something I learned and it is quite logical. I can ask someone the exact reference if you are interested."

http://www.infolanka.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010578.html

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