posted November 27, 2004 08:27 AM            

Your mind has been wondering whether Kandyan is a Tamil or Sinhalese during last few weeks. Please don't make your judgment based on the last sentence you read.

I want to clarify few things here:

Kandy like any major city has its share of prostitutes and drugs.
I am not aware of CBK palaces (please enlighten me where they are etc..).
She is a stubborn big mama and not known for steeling money unlike her uncles.
Queen's Hotel does not look appealing for any foreigner who is used to a good life.
There are other better hotels in Kandy and elsewhere in Sri Lanka for that.
Walk around bere lake is not relaxing, Kandy is not a perfect vacation city, it is a major city people live in with lot of congestion. If one wants a relaxing place, I suggest climb the Hanthana. I have been to a monastery there, best place in the whole world, so calm, pure, and you will feel like you are in a different world.

I agree, Kandy is cool, relaxing, free from mosquitoes and the solid proof that Sinhalese came and settled in Sri Lanka before Tamils (if you throw away any historical argument and go just by the fact that “the early bird catches the worm”).

posted November 27, 2004 12:06 PM         

Believe me, it would be impossible to locate what came first, the egg or the chicken, isnt it ?

I dont mean to offend u bro, but look at the origin of singhala race. Lion sleeping with a lady, see, that was what i saw in web mahawaseeya. Those things are biologically incoherent stuff.

Basic biology, people can not have kids with sleeping with dogs, lions, etc. So its just a silly story.

I dont think singhala people can be serious on saying that Ravana was a singhala king, and so are ravana's decendents.

The truth is, we are extremely complexly mingled with each other, its hard to say you are aryan and i am dravidian.

Anyway, its crystan clear that Ravana was not an aryan but a dravidian, so if you agree that Ravana is singhala, u all have to agree that you all are dravidians too.

So much for the aryan theory stuff, see, this is where i disagree with some singhala, and this is a reason why i admire people like Negambo and SL patriot, who doesnt care a heck on the superiority of who and which came first.

Who cares about who came first or who came second, just lets work together to develop Sri Lanka and make it a SECULAR PARADISE!

posted November 28, 2004 12:06 AM            

jughead, those comments were directed towards those who care about that. I’ve said many times before I personally don’t care who came to SL first. We are all there and need to figure out a common solution for us to live few more centuries together, so we have good agreements in that regard.

“I dont mean to offend u bro, but look at the origin of singhala race. Lion sleeping with a lady, see, that was what i saw in web mahawaseeya. Those things are biologically incoherent stuff.”

Well, you are now going to the heart of what we really believe in. Here is the real story your parent didn’t tell you. Sinhalese should have come from Ravana and his wife Ramani if not Ramani’s affair with the Lionman. They had trouble conceiving and Ravana had to go and find a Siva linga for blessing (at least that is what he told his wife, but according to Ramayahaya he went to fool around with Sitha). Since Ravana was getting late, Ramani slept with Ravana’s deputy Sinha (lion man). Since she didn’t want to tell anyone about what really happened, she made up a story saying that the lord came down as a lion (sinha) and conceived the Sinhala race.

You got to read mahawaseeya fine print to get the whole story!

posted November 28, 2004 10:02 AM            

you said "No doubt that Kandyan is Kandy sinhalese "

Look at what Tcup is saying, baire lake is in Colombo. Kandy has Bogamgara lake, I missed that too. Would you please update your current opinion on Kandyan?

Thanks Tcup, when the LTTE Terrorist wears a sheep skirt and bend over, you know now what happens.

posted November 29, 2004 07:02 AM         

This is the part of the mahawansa which says on the lion story.

And about your story on Ravana+ Ramanu, please give me the exact proof from Mahawansa about your story in Ramani.

Here is what your Mahawnseeya really say:

Link

http://lakdiva.org/mahavamsa/genea.html

And this explain with a tree chart, it doesnt say anything about Ramani and Ravana.

But in Tamil history, king Ravana is given a special place which is given to Viyai in Singhalese mahawanseeya.

And your Mahawansa rounds up on the lion sleeping issue, it says :

"When the lion had taken his prey and was leaving the spot he beheld her from afar, love (for her) laid hold on him, and he came towards her with waving tail and ears laid back. Seeing him she bethought her of that prophecy of the soothsayers which she bad heard, and without fear she caressed him stroking his limbs.

The lion, roused to fiercest passion by her touch, took her upon his back and bore her with all speed to his cave, and there he was united with her, and from this union with him the princess in time bore twin-children, a son and a daughter. "

http://lakdiva.org/mahavamsa/chap006.html

And NO, my parents were not telling me any of this since i was brought up by my own, so all what i have learnt, i learnt by my self and i am proud of it.

Thanks!

posted November 29, 2004 09:33 AM            

Since you are a Tamil person, you may not have connected with the Sinhalese culture (which is OK) and that is why you have missed so many cultural references.

http://www.webquarry.com/~raditha/gallery/bogambara.phtml
“The Sinhala name for Kandy is Maha Nuwara so you would think the Lake in Kandy would be called Nuwra Wewa or the Kandy Lake. But the Nuwara Wewa is in Anuradhapura and the Kandy lake is called Bogambara Lake! “

Here is how you find the Baire lake: Go to the link below, search Navaloka Hospital, Zoom out and you will find Baire lake is written on the map.
http://www.lanka.info/sithiyama/search/searchFrontPage.jsp

"I am very sure that Kandyan is part of kandy sinhalese farmers Caste"

I ask that you stop speculating. You can never guess the Sinhala caste. How come the person who doesn't know the Sinhala name for famous Bogambara lake knows Sinhala caste well (no offense please, I want to give you some real life lessons on the outcome when you speculate something).

posted November 29, 2004 09:40 AM         

Ravana and the aryans(since most buddhist believes singhala-aryans) are like sun and moon.

If you say singhalas are from Ravana, you have to admit that that singhalese are of a dravidian origin.

I am not being a racist but bro, i am interested to learn on true origin of singhalas' not the crap mahawaseeya is feeding u all.

I have a respect you as a moderate singhala, i hope we can have an intelectual chat.

take care,

posted November 29, 2004 10:45 AM            

Most Sinhalese do not believe the Ravana story, I personally think it is good literature and far from truth. The Hindus believe that, however Hindu Tamil intellectuals told me that it is more like how you live life than the reality and I’d buy that.

Some Sinhalese will try to show evidence (geographical) that Ravana did exist, however I don’t buy any of them. However Sinhalese do not believe that they come from Ravana (in my view it is more real than believing in a Lion).

I am not a history buff, therefore I don’t want to talk about Sinhala origin. However I think whatever happened after king Vijaya has been well chronicled and archeology supports it. I don’t believe enough evidence exists to say who came to Sri Lanka first.

posted November 30, 2004 11:08 AM            

Be careful of your chose of words: “Kariya Sinhala caste”

Some thinks all Sinhalese belong to this class .

I think you meant to say Karava Sinhala caste. Many Sinhala caste minded (mostly old folks now) think their caste is better than other regardless what the caste is.
I’ve heard people in Kandy think of very highly of themselves, however people in the south trash them since they think they are better.

“I do not do speculations, I always do calculations.”
I’d like to see your calculations of determining one’s caste
All we can do is speculate or ask. Otherwise you never know. Conclusions from speculations may not always be true.

It is quite easy for me to identify fellow Sinhalese writing. Fakers can easily be exposed, most don’t since they are polite.

In the world we live in, many believe a superpower created everything, or Prabhakaran is a freedom fighter and not a Terrorist. Therefore, I am not trying to change your views anymore.

posted November 30, 2004 11:55 AM         

then again u have no other option =) coz non of the tamils will like u even the batticalo tamil people =)

ur karuna kambi anna is doing the same =). If I were him I rather die tan eating wit the poeple I fighted 4 years =).

India is not gone a give a shit abt karuna he is just noting man he can;t even walk on street. wat type of life is tat =)

posted November 30, 2004 12:26 PM            

Here is more for you to translate in Urdu:

"Obage’ pashchath bhagaya thiyenne gini kabalak udada?"

posted November 30, 2004 12:35 PM         

Did somebody remind me of LTTE getting help from South government to fight the hindu brothers of IPKF ?

How come you still alive ?

Lier Lier pants on fire

Neelam

posted November 30, 2004 01:07 PM         

I guess you are feeling happy about all the girls who were raped by the IPKF, eh ?

And what about all the guys who were killed ??

posted November 30, 2004 01:10 PM         

What about LTTE members in Trinco, can they be alive if they dont suck up to Pirbhakaran.

"Yes Pirabharan" is the only words they are allowed in the wordbase, poor jaffna racist and silly trinco fools like you who are being lead from the nose to suck up to northern.

Bend to the northern LTTE and learn the lesson in hardway

posted November 30, 2004 01:19 PM         

yea they can walk and come on meeting wit out fear will karuna can come on a meeting?

posted November 30, 2004 01:47 PM         

And the press conference Pirbha gave was having annai in a side to protect him from singhalese

After that, what press conferece did prabha give bro ? (After annai left him)

>I dont give a shit he batti

posted December 01, 2004 02:18 AM            

I have been in this forum as a sleeping member for the last 6 /7 years i never replied or posted anything but I used to go through it quite often .When I started reading your posts , I new you had a identity crisis ,never the less I became a fan of yours ,since you pen it in a different style ( not like. anandan / ranjan reborn / ravis /eravis . more like speedy /henry ) . For me its not important who you are but what you say .

Most of all I don't want to see any one making minced meat out of Sinhala Language. So here we are back to the square one . This would be the last time am doing this . Either you take it or you can show the other members ( specially sinhala speaking ) of this forum what a intellectual idiot you are .

Here we go You said

I too can identify fakers very easily. Especially when they need to come with several id's and get the Sinhala "ahanna" mixed up with "vahanna."

This what Anaconda said on November 29, 2004 10:11 AM:

'eka boruvak vahanna boru thahak kiyanawa'.

If one translates this, it reads as: "ask to close one lie, tell thirty lies." Which does not make sense. How do you "close one lie?" Unless he got "vahanna" mixed up with "ahanna". Ahanna means "to ask." That is not the only mistake. The correct Sinhala word for 30 is "thihuck" (thiha, thissgana, etc) not "thahak." How a Sinhalese will confuse "thihuck" with "thahak" is beyond my comprhension.

You can not comprehend because you have no knowledge of it

'eka boruvak vahanna boru thahak kiyanawa' ... this means .. To cover up a one lie you have to lie thousand times .....

instead of thahak .he should have used dahak but any way its very similar

You said

The same "Anaconda" also posted with the ID of "AALC" (November 29, 2004 05:53 AM) and said the following:

"Kata piya gena sitina thek modaya pandithayaya"

There is no such word as "pandithayaya." Pandithakama, pandithaya, but NOT pandithayaya.

Kadyan could you translate this

Lula Nathi Walata Kanaya Panditha ya~ ya /.................. its similar to the sound in ...... well Ya ya (Paddy Field ... ) . not just .. ya ya .. ( yes yes )

Then you said

The reason I concluded "Anaconda" and "AALC" are the same person is because of the obvious mistakes in the Sinhala. Besides, "AALC" registered on the forum on November 29, 2004, and his first and only post involved the quotation that I gave above.

After reading your posts i thought you were having a identity crisis now I know you are confused too . please don't compare me with Anaconda am just an average Joe . It would be an insult for him .

posted December 01, 2004 08:42 AM         

I enjoy mocking jaffna racists like you, hope to hear from you soon

posted December 01, 2004 05:41 PM            

We are two different people, Kandyan is showing typical LTTE behavior again: his judgement is shaky and incorrect. The guy grew up in Kandy and refered Baire lake to Bogamabara (Kandy) lake. If you paly close attention, he is absorbing most Sinhalese writings and psyche himself up so that he can act as one.

I can ask the typical sinhala words where Tamil speaking people make obvious mistakes, however I don't go there.

Thanks for correcting my spelling, it should have been dahak and not dhahak. Yes, our Tamil friend thought it is 30 and not thousand, I saw it and did not say since I wanted others to see it.

This is exactly what they are doing to our history, they think they can teach us better.

I am an average joe too and the pandithaya where there are no lulas. There have been quite few of them and I am warming the seats until they come back.

A Sinhala speaking person can complete this rhyme:

“Ek anndak kade thun anden nondi gasana .....”

Who said (every little kid knows this):

"....... biya novanna marena sati ......"

Good one:

“Ova denu parasata thama sammathe pihata sita mata make theruma kiyala denna apa ”

posted December 01, 2004 06:39 PM            

Of course I did not know what thahak means. No one knows what thahak means! Coz' there is no such word as thahak. Nice try! And you say you wanted others to see it - good on you, mate; you have made your inability to speak Sinhalese very clear indeed. I too wanted others to see it, which is why I gave thihuck (an actual Sinhala word). Unlike your suda Sinhala, my Sinhala actually makes sense.

posted December 03, 2004 12:05 AM         

However, we all do share one thing in common, which is important to remember- we all believe in equality for all sri lankans, and the betterment of the lives of every sri lankan, whether they be living in a seperate state or not.

posted December 03, 2004 08:42 AM            

A Tamil extremist once told me that equal rights and equal positions are two different things. He rejected equal rights for Tamils. He wanted equal positions. His position is equal right bring nothing to Tamils as far as governing Sri Lanka is concerned due to whopping Sinhalese majority. Therefore he wanted equal position. That is what pro LTTE Tamil extremists like Kandyan is always saying. This means, 50% the power of Sri Lankan government should go to Tamils irrespective of Sinhala majority.

So what does that leave for people like them with regard to Federalism?

posted December 03, 2004 09:28 AM            

However, JVP has does not believe killings and weapons achieve no more. We should force LTTE to be in that position. Sri Lanka should have only one central army, any other parties having arms is a threat to all of us. It is important for all Sri Lankans to get together and force LTTE to give up militarization and use of war to achieve means. JVP has cleaned up their act, won positions in the government and are directly helping their followers. No one crushed them militarily once they gave up arms. However more people have been killed due to LTTE’s violent actions during last three years and everyday LTTE is killing people now.

What you see clearly is the problem is with LTTE who’s followers are probably around 3% of our population and not with majority Sri Lankans. Therefore please speak up and your voice will send extremists back into the underground.

posted December 03, 2004 11:25 AM         

Cleaned up? HA! They are still the most untrustworthy, violent and racist political group around.
Helping their followers?? All they have done it point fingers and protest. They are weekly protesting against the government policies, forgetting that they ARE the government. THey have FAILED to fulfill a single promise that they made before elections.

The only single positive thing they have done is the "1000 Tanks" project". HOWEVER, who was this for? This was conducted in the rural areas of the south where they get their support. THey have not said a single thing about the betterment of the people of the north and tamils. They are outright racists.

At least if they could make proposals on policy issues and actions, I would give them some credit. However all they do it protest whatever new policy that is being implemented.

posted December 03, 2004 12:08 PM            

JVP will not do anything for Tamils, it is an urban Sinhala party and LTTE will not do for anything for Sinhalese as well. However I won’t call them racists yet (based on my experience with racist parties in USA). I think JVP leadership is capable of having meaningful discussion with mainstream Tamils and not with LTTE.

Regarding the headline, I am not trying to defend them, however usually headlines are written to capture people’s attention. Most JVPers are still extremists and they have ruled out violence.
"JVP threatens violent uprising if talks start on ISGA".

I don’t believe JVP posses any weapons of mass destruction now. I am a capitalist and against JVP ideology. However I understand JVP’s existence. They will exist as long as poverty in Sri Lanka and any economic development will drive JVP followers into other parties. LTTE has strengthened JVP since the war has created a bad economy in Sri Lanka and now find it difficult to overcome them.

posted December 03, 2004 04:08 PM         

"however usually headlines are written to capture people’s attention. Most JVPers are still extremists and they have ruled out violence."
"JVP threatens violent uprising if talks start on ISGA".
This headline was not a means of getting attention. It was what it was. The article was on the dailymirror online and talked about how they will mobilize the army and the people to stage a violent uprising if talks start based on ISGA.

"When I traveled SL South, I spoke with some JVP followers and their rationality made sense to me."
The rural person blindly follows JVP propoganda tactics since they know little of how politics really works, and do not realize that words are just words. The JVP tells the rural person that he will be emancipated and will become more prosperous if the capitalist government is overthrown. However, the truth is that they remain poor because of the war. So the JVP is against peace talks and supports a military solution, which means that the people will only get poorer through more war. The rural people don't understand this.

posted December 03, 2004 05:35 PM         

Over and above that you personaly dont have knowledge of either party. You are trying to compare using what you hear and read which could be one sided. You got to try and think for your self.

On a lighter side I am going to cut and paste a e-mail I got to prove that you cannot believe everything you hear.

A little boy was doing his math homework. He said to himself,

"Two plus five, that son of a bitch is seven.

Three plus six, that son of a bitch is nine...."

His mother heard what he was saying and gasped, "What are you doing?"

The little boy answered, "I'm doing my math homework, Mom."

"And this is how your teacher taught you to do it?" the mother asked.

"Yes," he answered.

Infuriated, the mother asked the teacher the next day, "What are you

teaching my son in math?"

The teacher replied, "Right now, we are learning addition."

The mother asked, "And are you teaching them to say two plus two, that son

of a bitch is four?"

After the teacher stopped laughing, she answered, "What I taught them was,

two plus two, THE SUM OF WHICH, is four."

posted December 03, 2004 11:51 PM            

If I say that JVP and LTTE are similar according to following, wouldn’t you agree?

1) They both chose violence to achieve their means.

2) They both used brainwashing propaganda to create followers.

3) They both have murdered own kind.

I enjoyed your story, here is the essence of what you are saying:

Don’t believe in something just because it has been passed along or retold for many generations.

Don’t believe in something just because it has become a traditional practice.

Don’t believe in something just because it is well known everywhere.

Don’t believe in something just because it is cited in a text.

Don’t believe in something solely on the grounds of logical reasoning.

Don’t believe in something merely it accords with your philosophy.

Don’t believe in something it appeals to ‘common sense’.

Don’t believe in something just because you like the idea.

Don’t believe in something because the speaker seems trustworthy,

Don’t believe in something thinking this is what our teacher says.

posted December 04, 2004 12:03 AM            

My mistake, what I meant was during last 3-5 years, sorry I did not clarify it well. I am fully aware of their deadly campaign and how SLG crush them by killing over 100,000 Sri Lanka youth (or Terrorists). I know ten families and their fathers have been brutally murdered by JVP. I also had many JVP friends and colleagues and some of them had disappeared and believed to be killed by the government.

“The rural person blindly follows JVP propoganda tactics since they know little of how politics really works, and do not realize that words are just words. “

I agree, that is how both JVP and LTTE exploit people.

“The JVP tells the rural person that he will be emancipated and will become more prosperous if the capitalist government is overthrown.”

Those who study Marxism really think it works, and it looks actually good on paper. If I was in their shoe, I would have certainly liked wealth sharing. The person struggle through the daily basic needs doesn’t understand that. When the government is not reaching towards them, JVP fill that vacuum.

“ the JVP is against peace talks and supports a military solution,”

I know they are against peace talk (well they actually piece talk and I am against them too). However I haven’t read anywhere that they support a military solution and will certainly change my mind if you show me what their position is.

posted December 04, 2004 03:08 AM         

I do agree with Anaconda.
His point is even though JVP terrorised SL couple of time they are in the political main stream now. But LTTE is still a killing machine. It pumps (sinhalese) hatred to its blind followers by means of its proxies, mainly of e-media.

On other hand agree with you about these JVP rascals. Still they are damaging SL by their narrow political aspirations. In my view their only aim is to get to power. They are using SLFP as a ladder.

posted December 06, 2004 11:50 AM            

For this I'd say UNP is now tasting their own medicine, they invented SL Thugs.

Weerawanse as the next president will slap PA and UNP for what they did for the country during last decades. Don’t underestimate JHU factor.

posted December 06, 2004 12:06 PM            

Considering how Colombo plays politics, I won't rule that out.

While LTTE us ruining NE, PA and UNP with some help of JVP is ruining the rest of the country. The average Sri Lankans are being exploited and there is no hope for them.

posted December 06, 2004 05:05 PM         

So close but yet so far.

posted December 06, 2004 05:58 PM            

Here is some of what UNP has done so far:

JR invented MP corruption, did not wipe out LTTE when they were <10.
Premadasa supported LTTE by giving weapons.
Killing of 100,000 Sinhalese during JVP uprising, many of them are innocent.
Selling out the country for LTTE during last Ranil era, made Colombo virtually a Time bomb with access to LTTE suicide bombers.
Absolutely lawlessness throughout the country.
Asia’s richest politicians through stolen money from people.

The list goes on.

posted December 07, 2004 08:30 AM            

We should demand more from each parties. We should speak against when they exploit poor people and Sri Lanka’s money. I remember just before the last election some UNP minister imported a third grade food shipment since he was heavily bribed. Someone sighed an agreement with Prima flour company so that Sri Lanka can only access the lowest quality by products where as the best quality wheat goes elsewhere. The same time CBK’s uncle stole billions from government and arms commissions. Frankly I am surprised why LTTE is no where near where they want to be considering how willing our politicians are cutting deals, then again you can think that they are just as stupid as our politicians. Country has bigger problems beside LTTE, since that overshadows anything, politicians can now get away achieving nothing to Sri Lanka.

posted December 07, 2004 12:20 PM            

There you go!

posted December 07, 2004 12:24 PM            

I welcome these and we need more.

"since CBK is too weak/scared to uphold what is right and good for the country. Kardigama has made almost a record number of unneceessary trips during his first few months in office, and there are plans to provide all MPs with personal cars. "

This is true too, she is definetely not a strong leader. She has nothing to be admired about.

Ranil too was week. His policies made him defeat the last election.
He exposed SLA military intelligence and LTTE ended up killing all Tamils who worked for the Army. The leader of that gang finally had to go on exile.

This by far the biggest betrayal of any leader in our history. He too should be put in the cell with his friend SB.

During JR or Premadasa times, I was told Ranil had a thug force headed by Gonawala Sunil. He was then killed by JVP (I think).

posted December 08, 2004 03:40 AM         

SriLankan's need bollywood hero type leader. That's part of our culture. That's how our mass measure the leader to vote. Thats why those who can talk and promise the fanciest stuff get elected. Also mass have very small memory and they forget the fancy stuff that they promised at previous elections.

Ranil may not have good leadership skills but he composes business skill to develop the country. We cannot ask for moon we have to choose the best one we have.

posted December 08, 2004 08:28 AM            

No one knows who burnt the Jaffna Library. However did it as “tit for tat”. When two people fight each other, they always find ways to hit others hard. When you complain Jaffna liberary burning, please remember it did not start in a vacuum. All the problems we see have a cause and effect and we have chosen only to talk about the effect.

Many Sinhalese used to think Tamils were clever until mass exam cheating scams were revealed. Therefore Jaffna library wouldn’t have been a factor. Later Sinhalese have learned that the good ones are as good as MIT, Harward, or even IIT.

posted December 08, 2004 09:14 AM         

If Mr Premadasa was so good to thamil people as you praised why was he bombed & killed.

posted December 08, 2004 09:58 AM            

Both Hindu Tamils and Sinhalese Buddhists worship the same God!

Doesn't that tell you there is a great deal common amomg them even though our LTTE brothers work hard to trash Sinhala Buddhist culture?

This is a great starting point for the race integration (for those who hasn't already participated in it through dating or getting married).

posted December 09, 2004 10:04 AM            

It pays sometimes to be really tough on those who tries to disrupt things for the rest.

posted December 09, 2004 10:18 AM            

The LTTE Tamils are estimated to be around 3% of our population.

I won't blame just racist Sinhalese for what happened for Tamils. Usually problems don't start in a vacuum. OK, let's say the problem is between 3% of Tamils and Sinhalese each. Still 6% of the population ruined it for everyone.

Acceptable solution is to elliminate that 6% for the benefit of the rest.