posted November 21, 2004 07:34 PM         

SINHALESE OR TAMIL, WE'RE ALL SRI LANKANS
Mother lanka, the Paradise island,
Was where both of us were born,
Pearl of the Indian Ocean wide,
Was how our little nation was known.

The northern plains were home to you, my brother,
When my eyes sought the midland's green hills,
But the same golden Land we called our mother,
The land where shone gems, pearls and paddy fields.

Hands linked we walked along with a gentle smile,
Up the steps of Nallur Temple, roofed with tile,
Around the Magnificent Temple of the Sacred Tooth,
The very prides of the North and Up Country both.

Heads adorned with thee crowns of freedom,
Hearts overflowing with the joy of love,
As brother and sister we always lived,
Nurturing with bliss our supreme love.

All was well until one horrid day,
When the vicious war broke out with force,
And my little brother was carried away,
To destroy his sister's people by scores.

An innocent little lamb he was,
Yet he could not betray his kind,
Terrorists tore my brother away from me,
And they hardened his delicate mind.

Seeking revenge, the army battled in return,
None had any thoughts for our wounded hearts,
My people's blood in the earth made a pattern,
As cries of pain echoed from the northern parts.

Flames of hatred and rage were kindled so,
Refugees were made with no home to go,
Children were orphaned, parents made childless,
Hunger dug at empty stomachs, all the work of the heartless.

Mother Lanka's tears of sorrow go unheeded,
Peace and love do not seem to be needed,
Innocent people are buried alive and burnt, raw,
I, a Sinhalese sister have lost my Tamil brother to the war.

Can any person heed this call?
Can they wipe our tears away?
Awaiting a new dawn are one and all,
Answer our prayers, Lord, let us smile today.

posted November 21, 2004 09:59 PM            

I've witnessed Tamils and Sinhalese sharing dorm rooms and be lifelong friends.

I know many Tamils falling love and married to Sinhalese.

A Sinhalese heading a multinational organization recently built 300 homes for displaced Tamils and 50 Toilets in Sinhala area. Some Tamils have complained that this Sinhalese does too much for Tamils.

posted November 22, 2004 03:07 AM         

By the way saw this.....

Sri Lanka has been cited as one of the most improved nations in the list of best places to live in the world in 2005 compiled by the popular The Economist magazine.

"Sri Lanka wins the prize of the the most improved nation with a jump of five places to 43rd," international reports on the list said.

TOP 10
1 Ireland
2 Switzerland
3 Norway
4 Luxembourg
5 Sweden
6 Australia
7 Iceland
8 Italy
9 Denmark
10 Spain

Not a bad achievement considering all the killings that are going on still.

posted November 22, 2004 08:25 AM         

We are in that way very lucky. So many countries everywhere else are plagued with horrible menaces such as aids, famine, dictatorships, etc.

posted November 22, 2004 09:04 AM            

It is most improved for Sinhalese in major cities and that is no brainier. Over 300 Tamils have been hunted down and killed so it is not the most improved for Tamils. Government has done nothing to prevent keeping these Tamils alive.

Judges are being killed, the drug related activities are on the rise, custom officers have been killed and some chased away, country is run by thieves, thugs, and Terrorists.

posted November 22, 2004 12:00 PM            

I will point out the most obvious contradiction.

"The northern plains were home to you, my brother,..."

"Terrorists tore my brother away from me,
And they hardened his delicate mind"

One can infer that the "brother" having been "torn away" by the "terrorists" also becomes a terrorist! It is stated explicity in another line:

"And my little brother was carried away,
To destroy his sister's people by scores..."

As I have said before, the author does a very poor job of distinguishing between "brother" and "terrorist." Then again, this is typical of the Sinhala racist frame of mind. They desperately want to believe Tamils will consider actually consider fellow Tamils as "terrorists."

Speaking of Sinhalese nationalism/racism, the poem also does an excellent job of presenting more "gems" which that racism mindset takes for granted.

"Refugees were made with no home to go,
Children were orphaned, parents made childless"

There were no refugees between the years between the years 1948 and 1976. For the poem to be historically accurate, it should take into account the failure of the Tamil Federal Party to achieve a peaceful Federal solution with consecutive Sinhalese governments. Refugees do not emerge out of nowhere; one equates refugees most often with war & war/related activities. It is easy to mention refugees and offer shallow sympathies; but really the refugees are unfortunate intermediaries caught between the grip of a vicious power struggle. In the case of Sri Lanka, this was a power struggle initiated by the failure of consecutive Sinhalese nationalist governments to enact viable, non-discriminatory public policy.

It is disturbing that a 12-yr old will freely use the "terrorist" label to make improper, untrue assessments regarding a political question spanning decades. Unfortunately, this is (I) a failure of the Sri Lankan educational system (which teaches history straight from Mahavamsa) and (II) an indication of the extent to which the Sri Lankan masses have been indoctrinated.

Perhaps this girl might be better off writing poetry about the JVP rebellion. How the "terrorists" stole away her brother, and how he was "buried alive and burnt, raw" by the Sri Lankan security forces.

posted November 22, 2004 01:54 PM            

OK, let's say SL educational system is bad and teach the mahawansa.

What about your system, you people don't teach our children at all, you kidnap them, wash their brain and use them as human fire cracakers.

The value of a man is how many he can kill while blowing himself up.
-- Kandyan's Leader

posted November 22, 2004 06:00 PM         

An excellent piece of propaganda. I did not realize the indoctrination began at such a young age. On a realistic note, the poem is shallow and lacks consistency.

YOU SAID: "Terrorists tore my brother away from me,
And they hardened his delicate mind"
One can infer that the "brother" having been "torn away" by the "terrorists" also becomes a terrorist! It is stated explicity in another line:
"And my little brother was carried away,
To destroy his sister's people by scores..."

I SAY: You are stating the obvious here! Obviously the "brother" was carried away only to be brainwashed into becoming another terrorist. He is no longer the normal child that he was before he was kidnapped by terrorists.

YOU SAID: Speaking of Sinhalese nationalism/racism, the poem also does an excellent job of presenting more "gems" which that racism mindset takes for granted.

I SAY: The girl mentions the word "gem" only once! You really need a pair of glasses. You fail to mention all those things associated with the north and tamil culture. For instance, she talks beautifully of Nallur temple.

"Refugees were made with no home to go,
Children were orphaned, parents made childless"

YOU SAID: There were no refugees between the years between the years 1948 and 1976. For the poem to be historically accurate, it should take into account the failure of the Tamil Federal Party to achieve a peaceful Federal solution with consecutive Sinhalese governments. Refugees do not emerge out of nowhere; one equates refugees most often with war & war/related activities.

I SAY: I cannot understand what the heck you are trying to point out here. Once again you are stating the obvious in a lame attempt to discredit the girl's poem. The girl is telling that refugees were created as a result of the war. And what do you mean that she "should mention the Tamil Federal Party"?? Are you seriously wanting the girl to delve into political party arguments in her poem?

YOU SAID: It is disturbing that a 12-yr old will freely use the "terrorist" label to make improper, untrue assessments regarding a political question spanning decades.

I SAY: THe girl doesn't care about political blabbering and trying to take sides here. She is just trying to show that Tamils and Sinhalese are equal and both are sri lankans...it is as simple as that.

YOU SAID: Perhaps this girl might be better off writing poetry about the JVP rebellion. How the "terrorists" stole away her brother, and how he was "buried alive and burnt, raw" by the Sri Lankan security forces.

posted November 22, 2004 07:50 PM            

I do not deny the poem is well-written - for propaganda purposes, of course. The historical picture it paints, however, is entirely out of context. Given the numerous half-truths that abound, I have no recourse but to label it as shallow.

"You are stating the obvious here! Obviously the "brother" was carried away only to be brainwashed into becoming another terrorist. He is no longer the normal child that he was before he was kidnapped by terrorists."

You should just say what is common knowledge in our demala-despising Sinhalese culture: all Tamils, whether LTTE or not, are essentially the same. The LTTE are merely a few worse apples in an already bad lot. At the end of the day, the "brother" was never a "brother" but a "demala karaya" who got out of control. Let us follow Dharmapala's logic, for a moment, and assume Sinhalese are the first to settle Sri Lanka (before Tamils). If we then infer that these Sinhalese are endowed with protecting Therevada Buddhism, our anti-Tamil picture is 2/3 complete. All that is left is to show that a few of the demalas with the support of the other demalas pose a real threat to the established Sinhalese order of the day, and the superiority of the Sinhalas is established. Obviously, if one holds another in contempt, as our Sinhalese culture teaches us from day one to do with Tamils, the sister-brother logic fails altogether. Regardless of the government's view, I doubt any Sinhalese would call a brother or sister who joined up with JVP, a terrorist. A brother-sister relationship is blood-based and centers around traditional family ties. The post-independance political relationship between the Sinhalese and Tamils, however, is more on the level of that shared between an alcoholic father and the abuse he heaps on the wife he never really loved and children whom he has no time for, during drunken stupors.

"The girl mentions the word "gem" only once! You really need a pair of glasses. You fail to mention all those things associated with the north and tamil culture. For instance, she talks beautifully of Nallur temple."

If the grand purpose of the Sinhalese government was merely to preserve Tamil culture for the sake of its priceless beauty, it would not have sent hundreds of thousands of troops with airforce, artillery, and infantry (forces of destruction) to lay waste the birthplace of that culture.

"I SAY: I cannot understand what the heck you are trying to point out here. Once again you are stating the obvious in a lame attempt to discredit the girl's poem. The girl is telling that refugees were created as a result of the war. And what do you mean that she "should mention the Tamil Federal Party"?? Are you seriously wanting the girl to delve into political party
arguments in her poem?"

Of course you cannot understand what I am pointing out. Your Sinhalese-nationalist mindset sees a very simple picture: an ethnic conflict created by Tamil terrorists, which is preventing the island from becoming another Singapore, relative to economics and prosperity. In your mind, if the terrorists were to fade away, all the pieces of the puzzle would fall into place. Your simple-mindedness admits of one other thing: the Sinhalese politicians are useless. Of course, no one can compare to the evil LTTE who blow up innocent Sinhalese in Colombo, and whatever happpens, the country must be unified at all costs. Therefore, while you despise the government, you wish it to destroy the LTTE militarily - the impact it may have on the "brother-sister" relationship with the Tamils is irrelevent. Even if the brother must flee to Canada/UK/Australia to survive indiscriminate airforce and artillery attacks, leaving behind a home of generations, this must be seen second to that purpose which you have in mind: reunification of the whole island. Unfortunately, your simple reasoning sees an effect (LTTE) but does not establish a cause (Sinhalese nationalism). Your simple reasoning also fails to take into account attempts toward peace, via nonviolent resistance, by the Tamil Federal Party. History may be volatile, but it is certainly not lacking in continuity. The LTTE arrived decades after independence; the first Sinhalese prime minister was making racist comments as early as 1937. The refugees arrived as a result of the failure to make a smooth transition from colony to democracy. The girls poem does not take into account that failure, except in a very superficial way: to highlight an inevitable power struggle, which has its roots in a time and place her poem makes no mention of.

"THe girl doesn't care about political blabbering and trying to take sides here. She is just trying to show that Tamils and Sinhalese are equal and both are sri lankans...it is as simple as that."

She makes her motives very clear by explicit use of the term "terrorist." In such a context - brother-sister/equality logic is a sham. Shes assumes the "terrorists" are murderers in every respect:

- And my little brother was carried away,
To destroy his sister's people by scores -

She does not begin to mention what the Sri Lankan army has destroyed. And you are telling me she is not taking sides? Consider what strong words these are:

-To destroy his sister's people by scores -

That is an entirely inaccurate statement. The Tamils showed both sides of a single coin - revolution. First came nonviolent demonstration. Then came armed struggle. The "goal" was never to "destroy scores of people." The common factor - the right to basic freedom - is on both sides of the coin.

"I am sorry but this year 12 girl is not a professional poet. Maybe later in her life she will take upto writing poetry about all aspects of the history of sri lanka."

I doubt she will. More likely, she will float through her life, taking for granted the assumptions put forth by our demala-despising Sinhala culture. Within the tangled web of other nationalists who share a similar mindset, her misjudgements will find plenty of reinforcement.

posted November 22, 2004 09:47 PM         

Even if you quote from Bible, Koran, or post the Ten commandments terrorist will say it is "an excellent piece of propaganda" against them. (further those states you should not kill)

So spend your time with usefull audience here.

posted November 22, 2004 11:09 PM            

I never heard this word before: “demala karaya”

Demala is the Sinhala word for Tamils. What is karaya?

I never heard this word before. Usually a native Tamil person finds it difficult to pronounce Sinhala words properly. He never wanted to take my challenge when I asked him to translate Einstein's quote to Sinhalese.

Kandyan, just bended over without sticking his sheep skirt between the legs.

posted November 22, 2004 11:49 PM            

I would like to understand what you meant by this" what is demala karaya?

I think you got confused by the word mathya

posted November 23, 2004 12:29 AM            

You came to this forum using the word ‘racist’ on your every other sentence, yet you ask me not to do personal attack. Calling me ‘Macho’ is also personal attack. You and your LTTE are the macho people. I promote none violence and condemn any kind of killings.

I have heard the song “Portuguesu karaya … ratawal allante veeraya” That is the Tamil translation of “Pruthugeesi (not Portuguesu) Karaya …ratawal allana (not allante) suraya” popular Sinhalese song. Every time you write Sinhalese, you prove that you are no Sinhalese.

However I never seen or heard the two word ‘demala karaya’ together. Yes they use ‘Malu Karaya’ for the fish salesman. Usually Sinhalese use ‘demala miniha’ (Tamil Man) and never demala karaya.

posted November 23, 2004 12:43 AM         

Haha yet again you have proved your ignorance! How could there have been any sri lankan prime minister before we gained independence?? You obviously don't know anything about sri lankan history...which shows in your explanations of the ethnic problem.

And for your information...I am not a nationalistic sinhala chauvanist like you say I am. I believe in equality for every sri lankan. I do NOT see things in a simple way...and I do NOT think that a military solution is what is the solution to the conflict.

posted November 23, 2004 12:52 AM            

"We must realise that the Sinhalese are the rightful sons of this fair country..."

Sinhala Leader of the House, Ceylon State Council Ceylon's First Sinhala Prime Minister in 1948 - D.S. Senanayake, 31 July 1937

- And for your information...I am not a nationalistic sinhala chauvanist like you say I am. I believe in equality for every sri lankan. I do NOT see things in a simple way...and I do NOT think that a military solution is what is the solution to the conflict. -

I do not doubt that your intentions for the Tamils are good. At the same time, I believe your intentions take into account the needs and aspitations of the Sinhalese first and foremost. This attitude is ingrained into our Sinhala culture. Let me point that if we Sinhalese truly believe in equality for all, we will not care about the establishment of Eelam. After all... what is the % of Sinhalese living in the North and East to begin with? Trincomalee is the one exception, due to colonization schemes implemented by numerous Sri Lankan governments. But such places as Jaffna & Batticoloa, long before the LTTE even came into the picture, had very few Sinhalese residents.

So I ask you: other than ego, why do we Sinhalese insist on waging a war for these Northern and Eastern lands? To say that the Tamil people will suffer under the hands of the Tigers is a lie; when our Sri Lankan government imposed economic embargoes against essential items to Wanni region, how many of us Sinhalese raised our voices in protest? How many of us Sinhalese are even aware of the Chemmani Mass Grave in the North? To be perfectly honest, I have never heard a Sinhalese in real life mention Krishanthy Kumaraswamy even once.

I say we follow the path laid by Buddha... Sri Lanka does not have any obligation to protect and preserve Therevada Buddhism. The Buddha stressed detachment before all else. I find it highly ironic that we do a far better job protecting his tooth than adhering to his teachings. Shame.

posted November 23, 2004 07:45 AM         

I so confused that who you are. Please help me.

posted November 23, 2004 08:17 AM            

I beat you up with your pants down. You narrow minded Terrorists are so stinky and it shows clearly, I only needed to prove that using only one Sinhala word.

I thought I never had to use these harsh words against you, I am sorry you deserve all of it.

Drwho, be very scared of Kandyan. He is the same tiger responsible of the destruction of Tamil society in Sri Lanka. Kandyan, go back to the hole and sleep with Prabhakaran now. I shamed another fake freedom fighter.

Following came from my posting above:
Anaconda posted 11-23-104 12:29 AM

I have heard the song “Portuguesu karaya … ratawal allante veeraya” That is the Tamil translation of “Pruthugeesi (not Portuguesu) Karaya …ratawal allana (not allante) suraya” popular Sinhalese song. Every time you write Sinhalese, you prove that you are no Sinhalese.

However I never seen or heard the two word ‘demala karaya’ together. Yes they use ‘Malu Karaya’ for the fish salesman. Usually Sinhalese use ‘demala miniha’ (Tamil Man) and never demala karaya.

I have proved here beyond doubt that you are no sinhalese. I rest my case.

[This message has been edited by Anaconda (edited November 23, 2004).]

posted November 23, 2004 12:22 PM         

Kandyan, the only place of evidence that D.S. made this statement is on tamilnation.org- a pro ltte, pro eelam site. Nowhere else is there evidence of this. Obviously tamilnation is going to distort reality in order to achieve their motives.

Kandyan: "I do not doubt that your intentions for the Tamils are good. At the same time, I believe your intentions take into account the needs and aspitations of the Sinhalese first and foremost."

This is completely untrue. I have visited many tamil areas and admired their lifestyles and culture. I have interacted with tamil fisher and farmer populations in the north, and they are completely normal, friendly people. Their culture is so rich, just like the culture of the south.

posted November 23, 2004 12:44 PM            

Because a website is pro-Eelam and pro-LTTE does not mean it is necessarily biased - assuming it presents the viewpoints of the opposing side. In this regard, tamilnation.org is not lacking. The following can also be found at tamilnation.org:

"What is lacking is responsible leadership among both com­munities and statesmanship at the centre of government. We now know the cost of postponing decisions and surrendering wretchedly to political expediency when problems, which often thrive on neglect, assume massive proportions. Is it not possible for a small people like us to throw away the labels which have divided us, one group from another, and work to­wards a national rather than a sectional ideal? There is no dearth of men who have the intelligence and the desire to work for this aim. Is it impossible to get them together?"

- This is completely untrue. I have visited many tamil areas and admired their lifestyles and culture. I have interacted with tamil fisher and farmer populations in the north, and they are completely normal, friendly people. Their culture is so rich, just like the culture of the south.-

Yet, when the sons and daughters of these same Tamil fishermen and farmers join the LTTE, you do not hesitate to label them "terrorists." You said in another other post:

-- You are stating the obvious here! Obviously the "brother" was carried away only to be brainwashed into becoming another terrorist. He is no longer the normal child that he was before he was kidnapped by terrorists. --

Obviously, you have not taken into consideration the feelings of the fishermen/farmer when your censored Sri Lankan press in Colombo labels the son/daughter as terrorists, and you too follow suit. If your son/daughter joined the JVP, would you label them as terrorist?

- As for my opinion on nationalistic thinking, I am completely against people like the JVP and Sinhala Urumaya (still trying to decide on the trustworthiness of the JHU). The JVP is BAD is all sense of the word. They deceive the people using powerful rhetoric. They pretend to be buddhists to get the vote, when marxism (although they actually aren't marxist) forbits religious relations. They plant racist and divisive ideology into the heads of the ignorant masses. People have forgotten their brutal massacres of the past. The JVP has failed to do ANYTHING constructive or beneficial for the country- all they do is point fingers and threaten their opponents. -

There is no party of moderation in the South. Any moderate who comes to power will either be pressured to cave in (S.W.R.D Bandaranaike) or voted out of power (Ranil). I would attribute this to the active involvement of the monks in politics. The monks have always opposed any form of legislation designed to devolve power to the Tamils, the latest case being the Norwegian-backed proposals. The rural Sinhalese peasants are even more vulnerable to the vitriol stemming from the monks - is it any wonder that their children fill the ranks of the SLA? By the way, although numerous Sinhalese complain about the Tamil children who join LTTE, there are many, many under 20 Sinhala youth who also join LTTE. You may see them on any given day in such places as Anuradhapura & Polannaruwa (they make up the bulk of the units that I saw).

To conclude... if there is no party of moderation in the South, how can the Tamils be expected to play along? What promises, what guarantees of equality are there?

posted November 23, 2004 10:47 PM         

Unless of course that was a typo, and it should have read as 'Under 20 Sinhala youth join SLA.'

SLPatriot, have you ever read any pro Eelam material? Two of my most favourite websites are Tamilnation.org & Sangam.org They both have tons of information about the Tamil struggle, and for the most part they are not 'racist'. You don't have to believe everything they say, but it would be nice to read the material, because you get to hear the other side of the story too. I sometimes visit SPUR.. and even visited WAPS on numerous occasions. Usually, when I read the stuff, I want to scream out loud, but I still read it, because it's the extreme other end of the story.

posted November 24, 2004 11:41 AM            

Visit theacademic.org, it is supposed to be not biased so does uhtr.org.

posted November 24, 2004 11:46 AM            

Get real! Show me where they mention LTTE is considered a Terrorist organization by many countries around the world?

Show me where they condemn use of child soldiers?

posted November 24, 2004 04:33 PM            

Well then you are an exception. You will find in a courtroom murderers whose parents support them to the core - not because they believe the murderer is innocent (although this is the case sometimes) - but because of the parent-child bond. These parents will attend the trial everyday. If you can call your own child a terrorist, then you were never fit to be the parent of that child in the first place.

posted November 25, 2004 12:26 AM            

What seem to be the problem you are having with just Tamils here?
Why you are complaining so much about Colombo security, checkpoints?
Why you people are pretending like innocent bystanders?

You are faking tears while drooling blood from your mouth.

If you support violence or any parties associated with violence, learn to live with or go and fight. These are the problems we ALL created, not just Sinhalese.

Get real! You people whine so much while still killing innocent. You people have become so violent during past decades and have been given the Most Ruthless Terrorist award and the ban that comes with it.

posted November 25, 2004 09:01 AM            

Thanks once again for showing your racists sensibilities. You and I both know why in our Sinhala culture we call Tamils as "demala", Muslims as "thambi", and look down on anything Indian as "godey." Its all part of that ego complex... Now you are claiming that Tamils smell, I have heard that one before too. According to the logic of our Sinhala culture, that has to do with the idea that Tamils are close to India, in terms of customs - hence the association with "godey."

posted November 26, 2004 08:33 AM            

The sinhala word for Tamil people is demala, Sometimes they called ‘demala janaya’. Jana means people in sanskrit. I don’t believe it is used in a degrading way. I don’t know any other sinhala word to describe our Tamil brothers in Sinhala. There is a very formal word called ‘damila’ however it is not being word frequently.
For Muslims brothers, Sinhalese call them ‘marakkala’ or ‘thambi’. As far as I am concerned they are not degrading words too. The meaning of thambi is brother in Tamil I think (since sinnathambi is younger brother).

“Now you are claiming that Tamils smell”

Did I actually say that?
I am not a narrow minded person who think one race is better than the other. I challenge you to go through my writings and show me otherwise.

The only degrading them that I use to describe some Tamil people (mostly hard core LTTE) is ‘Terrorists’. However it is used by the mainstream and a well accepted term for many international Terrorists groups like the one you belong to.

With regards to what you say below:
“look down on anything Indian as "godey."”
Again I don’t know what you are talking about. Sri Lankans embrace Indian items and never look down. Godey means either urban or out of fashion in Sinhalese. Today Indian fashions are in high demand in Colombo. You are faking to be a Sinhalese and translate Sinhala expressions improper way prove that you are a Tamil racist and tries to inject hate among your people. There was a notorious Tiger called Kasiappan, he used to translate Sinhala primer during Tamil town hall meetings to create racial tensions. He claimed that Sinhala primer contains the sentence ‘demala bath kai’, which was far from true. He was then arrested to making false claims.

posted November 27, 2004 08:28 AM         

BATTI PEOPLE, WE SALUTE YOUR COURAGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH OUR LEADER!

LONG LIVE OUR STRUGGLE!

posted November 27, 2004 08:33 AM            

There is a Bati Tamil densist somewhere on the net and batteling LTTE so hard and well.

posted November 27, 2004 10:34 AM         

http://www.tmvp.org/maaveerar_speech_ta.html

And for singhalese, we have up a translated version in asian tribute, have a look.
Same goes for international community.

In my next few days, i will highlight more ugly deeds of some people of jaffna against their own brothers in Batticalo.

So much busy with some paper work submitting also Deepavaali and Eid UlFTR holidays, so need to catch up some work.

But we would be doing our best to get LTTE into the EU terrorists lists, I would also like to thank Mr. A . Sangaree in his kind efforts in this matter.

Yet again i send my wishes to our friends in Batti who are fighting under immense threats and intermidations even to their children as well.

posted November 27, 2004 10:44 AM         

I assure you that all that is one sided propaganda which blinds ur mind, believe me , used to support LTTE from all my heart since i believe that they are the liberators.

Right now, i have been among the people in Batti, i know how mothers and sisters suffer when the have the children kidnapped by the LTTE, whoever is against giving kids would be insulted or even beaten heavily.

If they take action going to human rights groups, they are labeled as traitors, etc and etc.

2 months back we were making a VCD in Batti to be FWDED to EU and most of the people who participated wanted to hide their identities in someway or other, people wanted to participate but they were scared.

There are 1001 things i can tell you pathetic about this system.

Thousands of members who were in LTTE from Batti did not leave LTTE for NO REASON, understood ? It was not a oneday or oneman process.

posted November 27, 2004 04:05 PM         

Kandyan do you hear what you are saying? Are you saying that adolf hitler's father was a bad man for calling his son a criminal or a murderer? Are you saying that osama's father is doing something wrong by calling his son a terrorist? Open your eyes.
If my child was a terrorist, i am not going to deny this fact and live in a dreamland. I am not going to hide myself from the truth. I will still keep in my that he/she is my child and as a father that i should do all i can to help him...but if he is going around slaughtering mass numbers of innocent people, calling him a terrorist is the minimum i would do.

Kandyan I must admit though that although you are an ltte supporter, you are not like the radical, brainless, superficial people like arumugam or eastern_tiger. At least you are capable of backing your arguments with evidence.

posted November 27, 2004 05:58 PM            

We all must agree on fundamental truths.

1. Everyone born in Sri-Lanka must have right to live in it.

2. Sri-Lankan police and army needs more training on understanding human rights, sensivities and paying respect to all. In the same way LTTE needs to understand the same.

3. People should understand how to solve a problem without yelling at each other.

4. Don't be foolish, work hard and solve the problem and talk to your leaders!

If we go to heaven( if there is such a thing)
does it matter if you are a Tamil, sinhalease or anyone else? By the way I did not chooese to be Sinhalease, so do not blame me for my race. On the other hand I wouldn't blame anyone for his race. I had a chance to choose my race before I was born, I would coose to be an American boy and I would take the blame for it proudly..

Hope everyone think about my argument, and reply to it in a friendly civilized way..

posted November 27, 2004 07:43 PM         

We need people like you in Jaffna and Colombo both.

I am damn damn busy for the next two days with a new internship in Dhaka. Give me just 3 days, I am coming to Batticalo for few more days.

Long live peace, equality and freedom!

posted November 27, 2004 09:57 PM            

Demala janaya? I don't know where you live, but janaya is a very uncommon word in Sinhalese. Unless you are JVP. Try "demala karaya", "demala miniya", "demala miniyeck" or "demala manuseck." Of course demala is used in a degrading way... anyone who uses it will know this... quite often, when referring to so-and-so, the following exchange is common between two Sinhalese is:

First Sinhalese: "Demala da, ape ekkeneck da?"

Second Sinhalese:"Neha, demala"

First Sinhalese: "Athe?"

"For Muslims brothers, Sinhalese call them ‘marakkala’ or ‘thambi’. As far as I am concerned they are not degrading words too. The meaning of thambi is brother in Tamil I think (since sinnathambi is younger brother).

Marakkala? No such word. Thambi is a very degrading term, but the primary one used to describe Muslims in Sinhala. Again... there is no need to debate that point.

"Did I actually say that?"

You must be a Muslim, as you seem to have no knowlegde of common myths Sinhalese hold about Tamils. To enlighten you, one of the very common, very popular ones is that Tamils and Indians (especially Indians)smell. Of course, we Sinhalese do not tell Tamils or Indians to the face that they smell, which is why you, being a Muslim or whatever, may never have heard this.

"Again I don’t know what you are talking about. Sri Lankans embrace Indian items and never look down. Godey means either urban or out of fashion in Sinhalese."

posted November 27, 2004 10:27 PM            

I don't particularly care for Hitler, but Osama is a different story. The Americans call him a terrorist, and yet it was the American CIA that funded Al-Quida - which Osama was part of from its inception - during the Afghan-Soviet War. There was a time when the Americans also assisted Saddam Hussein. Its funny how inelastic American foreign policy is. What you can be sure of are: (I) The Americans will support Israel no matter what, (II) The Americans will support Israel no matter what. That is why the labeling of this and that group as terrorist means very little; the Americans will not violate the sovereignity of any nation unless it possesses oil or is in a strategic location to station troops in, or it is a Israeli interest. Anyway... a parent is a parent... the affection for the child is unconditional. The child cannot be compared to Adolf Hitler - because he was a dictator. LTTE and JVP were simply guerrilla groups that emerged as representatives of the aspirations of a great many people, in response to genuine oppression.

"Kandyan I must admit though that although you are an ltte supporter, you are not like the radical, brainless, superficial people like arumugam or eastern_tiger. At least you are capable of backing your arguments with evidence."

My support for the LTTE has limits. It is my wish that the LTTE will transfer power to another Tamil group, once Tamil Eelam has been established, via democratically held elections. A problem with LTTE that I can forsee is that they will run Eelam using guerilla tactics. Guerilla tactics are not democratic in any sense; guerilla tactics, like other war tactics, are designed to minimize casualties on this side, and maximize them on that side. Minimizing casualties means not tolerating dissent; if the Tamils were to spend hours debating which group is best to represent them, the Sri Lanka army could easily exploit such division and put an end to all the groups. It also my wish that the Tamil Eelam and Sri Lanka merge into one nation within the next century. Of course, such merging should not be in favor of any particular group; in this regard, I am reminded of the 50-50 equal representation pushed forth by Tamil politicians during the 1950's - which was of course rejected by the Sinhalese-dominated Parliament.

posted November 27, 2004 11:36 PM            

Visit,
http://wsws.org/sinhala/2004/sep2004/meet-s17.pdf

If you can read Sinhala, you will find occurrence of the word ‘demala’ few times. They say the three main racial groups in Sri Lanka are: sinhala, demala, and muslim. Would you show me where "demala karaya” occur?

You say "demala miniyeck". This is the tamil translation of demala minihek. Many Tamils can’t pronounce Sinhala words right, they say miniya for miniha. Ha ha! You just blew your cover for the 10th time. No go back up and delete your text.

I am not going to debate with you on the rest of the crap.

posted November 28, 2004 12:18 AM            

This is about credibility and not about race. He is the one who started personal attack and called me a racist first without any basis. I get noticed when I play his record really loud. Our goal is the same, the approach is different. If is of best interest if we don’t cross our paths and focus our energy on the goal since he wants to derail us.

posted November 28, 2004 11:03 PM            

http://www.infolanka.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010513.html

posted November 29, 2004 03:08 PM            

Go through this thread and see who is a Tamil and who is a Sinhalese.

http://www.infolanka.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010513.html

"Eka boruvak vahanna" indeed! And no, that is not godey, that is the Sinhala used by the Sinhala "manushshayayek."

Forum is full of jokers; what can I say about these "pandithayaya" except everyone needs a good laugh once in a while.