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Hammer posted September 07, 2001 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
Returning Canadian’s favor…

When you go to a Hindu temple in Scarborough, Canada, you will see some LTTE Tamils pay $5 to buy Prabhakaran’s picture, you can see how pathetic and week these people are.

Prabhakaran is the Asia’s biggest killer and child molester and also the leader of LTTE.

Selling his pictures are like packaging Sri Lankan LTTE Tamil Shit and selling overseas.

Either Canadians are really nice open minded people or big idiots who have no idea that their society is being taken over by some scum humans in the world, disguised and came to their country as refugees.

LTTE Tamils will never be integrated to the Canadian society.
They will inject crime, violence, drug-trafficking, and prostitution into Canadian society and make Canadians drift to Mexico for good life!

Do Canada a favor, if they gave you shelter and a good life, please return their favor. Don’t inject LTTE shit into their society and screw them up like the way you are screwing up Sri Lanka.


Hammer

sam posted September 07, 2001 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sam   Click Here to Email sam     Edit Message
Hammer,
Most Canadians knows very well what's going on in SL. They are very sympathetic towards the Tamils and the LTTE. Only the Alliance Party and its' newspaper The National Post are opposed to the Tamils and the LTTE. In fact they don't care about LTTE. They are anti-immigrant, anti-minority thus anti-Tamil thus anti-LTTE. The Alliance Party is disintegrating and their support has plunged to all-time low to some 5%. So don't get the illusion that most Canadians are anti-LTTE. So that's why whatever Steward Bell writes has no impact on Canadians. Because everybody knows that the National Post is a hate Paper.

Hammer posted September 08, 2001 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
Oh Rally!
Read on, here is an article by the leader of your fan club.

Martin Collacott was the Canadian High Commissioner to Sri Lanka and also served
as ambassador to Syria, Lebanon and
Cambodia.


National Post Tuesday, June 13, 2000

The Canadian connection
'I'm appalled at how the Tamil Tigers have abused our hospitality'
Martin Collacott


Support from Canadian sources has been a major factor in nurturing the vicious
and bloody campaign of terrorism being waged by the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka.
What is surprising and disturbing is that some Canadian leaders still refuse to
admit that by cultivating the Federation of Associations of Canadian Tamils -- a
key front organization for the Tigers in Canada -- they continue to encourage
funding that has in large measure made possible the insurgency and acts of terror
that have killed tens of thousands of Sri Lankans.

When I served as Canadian High Commissioner to Sri Lanka from 1982 to 1986, the
period in which civil war began in earnest, I urged the Sri Lankan government to
redress Tamil grievances and worked actively to ensure that Canadian aid (and
particularly our large-scale involvement in irrigation programs) was used to
benefit the Tamils as well as the other races. I visited the Tamil heartland
in Jaffna immediately after the anti-Tamil riots in 1983 and again in 1986 at
a time when no other high commissioners or ambassadors went there to demonstrate
their concern for the Tamil population.

Having said this, I now must say I am appalled by the way in which the Tamil
Tigers and their supporters have abused and exploited Canadian hospitality.
Few recent terrorist movements have matched the brutality and ruthlessness
of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. Their bombs, which have killed hundreds
of innocent civilians, have been designed to sow terror among the population as
well as try to precipitate a violent reaction against Tamils in order to give
substance to allegations that they are being persecuted by the Sri Lankan
government (a claim which, inter alia, has enabled large numbers of Tiger
members and supporters to claim refugee status in Canada). A particular
trademark of the Tigers, and one that reveals their true character, has been
their systematic murder of moderate Tamil leaders in an effort to ensure that
the Tigers and their extremist supporters enjoy total dominance and control over
the community.

While the Tigers have not committed outright acts of terrorism in Canada, they
and their accomplices have been involved in a wide range of criminal activities
in this country in addition to the extortion of huge payments from Tamils here.
These include drug trafficking, migrant smuggling, passport forgery and fraud.
They have also been a major factor in the spawning of Tamil street gangs in Toronto,
which have accounted for 40 shootings in the past three years and five unsolved homicides.

A particularly sad irony of this situation is that, while the Tigers have been
successful in getting many of their supporters into Canada, most members of the
Sri Lankan Tamil community came here to seek peaceful lives and to benefit from
our traditions of democracy, human rights and rule of law. Instead, we have
permitted them to be intimidated and exploited by a group whose principal interest
in Canada is to use it as a base for launching insurgency and terror on the other
side of the globe. A telling indication of just how thoroughly the Tigers have been
able to coerce and intimidate the Sri Lankan Tamil community in Canada is the fact
that those who demonstrated last week to express their opposition to Tiger dominance
had to do so in New York -- not in Canada, where far more live but where there is no
freedom of speech when it comes to challenging the Tigers.

Our failure in this regard arises in large measure from a misguided interpretation of
multiculturalism that seems to holds that, if we are to show full respect for our
newcomers, we must be prepared to tolerate any and all views they may bring with
them, which may include bitter animosities and plans for the resolving of differences
in their former homelands by violent means. Surely we can find a way of receiving and,
indeed, rejoicing in the richness and diversity that newcomers bring to this country
without having to accept views that are fundamentally in conflict with Canadian values
and that suggest they have little interest in Canada except as a convenient place from
which to settle vendettas in other parts of the world.

An even greater failure on the part of Canada, however, is that we have allowed ourselves
at the political level to be
manipulated and exploited by organizations such as the Tigers. While it is encouraging to
hear from Lloyd Axworthy, the Foreign Affairs Minister, that Canada has signed an
international agreement outlawing terrorist funding, Finance Minister Paul Martin
insists it is "anti-Canadian" to criticize his attendance at a dinner organized by
the Federation of Associations of Canadian Tamils. Clearly government leaders are
prepared to overlook such well-documented terrorist connections for the prospect
of securing a few votes at the next election. We owe it to the Canadian public and
the many Tamil Canadians who came here to escape violence and intimidation to put
an end to the activities and influence of the Tigers and their supporters in Canada.

Martin Collacott was the Canadian High Commissioner to Sri Lanka and also served as
ambassador to Syria, Lebanon and Cambodia.


karri kaputa 1 posted September 08, 2001 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karri kaputa 1     Edit Message
Is that so Sam read this and I never alter the contents unlike you.

Tamil gangs dispense their own justice
Meet the leaders of bloody turf war
Michelle Shephard
CRIME REPORTER

Sunday Special
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The man known as ``The Cat'' has dodged bullets more than once and now he is busily dodging questions.

He answers mainly by slowly shaking his head or shrugging. Speaking softly, almost timidly, he leans heavily on his cane, tugs modestly at his plaid shirt and continually flashes a smile packed with startlingly white teeth.

Are you a prominent member of a Toronto gang?

Who are your enemies?

Who wants to kill you?

Finally, with a dismissive wave, Panchalingam Nagalingam, says police have it all wrong and that he leads a dull, unremarkable life. He's a 28-year-old Tamil Canadian trying to help raise a 2-year-old son, so why the interest in him?

His answers are not unlike those given by other reputed gang leaders.

Nagalingam is considered one of the old guard, a veteran of the decade-long Toronto gang battle between Sri Lankans who escaped civil war in their country by immigrating to Canada in the early 1990s.

In recent interviews, police investigators and Tamil community leaders, all requesting anonymity, say the gang rivalry between the two main factions - the AK Kannan and the VVT - has been steady over the last decade. Police believe some of their members have imported heroin, concocted elaborate credit card fraud schemes, robbed, assaulted and were assaulted. Some are suspects in major homicide investigations.

Even though police state some gang members are responsible for heinous crimes, the majority of members have never been convicted. Police claim that's because they pay for good lawyers, they won't turn informant even to provide information on rival gang members, and no one will co-operate as a witness.

Instead, they take matters into their own hands.

The Tamil slang word is ``pila'' and this is what drives the gangs. The word roughly translates as ``machismo'' or is described as an arrogant attitude that won't let them back down.

On the street it means the gang members swap violent incidents, rather than letting the police and courts exact justice. One shooting is often followed by another, retaliation building throughout Toronto and sometimes beyond into the closely linked scene in Montreal.

A recent display of these testosterone-driven crimes followed a double homicide last October. The killing enraged VVT gang members, who were furious about the public and police attention it garnered. And the gunmen had hit the wrong target, killing two teenagers - something that even gang members abhor.

``There are two courts, Canada's and God's court. One day they'll be punished because they killed innocent kids,'' says ``Biggie,'' a 23-year-old who police say is linked with the VVT.

What he doesn't say outright is that the gangs sometimes choose the journey to God's court.

In reaction to the double homicide last October, the VVT shot back, according to community and police sources.

First, they went after Nagalingam, the Cat, the 28-year-old man who has an uncanny ability to cheat death.

In December, he escaped shots that were fired, police allege, by VVT members. They narrowly missed his girlfriend and baby son as they sat in a car at their Markham home. No one was hurt but in the aftermath, Nagalingam publicly challenged his attackers. Through the media and his community, he told them to come to him and leave his family alone.

In March, he was alone when he walked into an ambush as he left the Mimico Detention Centre where he was serving a sentence on weekends.

He was shot six times, rushed to hospital and listed in critical condition. But he miraculously survived and walked out of hospital, just as he had in 1994 after a crushing car accident that killed three others. A crude scar now divides his chest into two, the only physical reminder of the accident.

``I don't like to talk about (the shooting),'' Nagalingam says.

``Why would you be attacked?'' he is asked.

A shrug is his only answer.

A 23-year-old man, who police allege is a VVT member, was arrested and faces various charges including attempted murder.

Jothiravi Sittampalam was next. He's the 31-year-old man known simply as Kannan and is said to have started the AK Kannan.

He was tailed in April as he left the Brampton courthouse. When he arrived at an off-ramp of Highway 404, his car was surrounded, shots fired wildly. The only injury was a cut on one of his fingers.

``This was huge,'' said one officer who investigates organized crime. ``To go after Kannan in such a brazen attack was bold.''

When asked last month about the attack following a court appearance on charges of credit card fraud, Kannan just shrugs, refusing to answer. He then leaves the courthouse through an illegal exit, activating a security alarm before jumping into a waiting van to avoid a reporter and photographer. Before he drives away he pulls alongside the photographer and tauntingly honks his horn.

His case is still before the courts.

Just last weekend, another alleged AK Kannan member was attacked. Thavam Krishnan was swarmed by a group of armed men and beaten outside a doughnut shop on Eglinton Ave. E., near Markham Rd. By the time police arrived at the scene everyone had scattered - including 23-year-old Krishnan.

``Most people can't understand that shootings can happen simply because somebody looked at somebody the wrong way in a bar, or somebody shows up in the wrong territory, in another guy's area or somebody went after somebody's friend,'' says a senior organized crime officer. ``All it takes is one call on a c-phone and a shooting will happen. It can be that basic.''

Police will not give the exact number of AK Kannan and VVT gang members they have listed in their database and say they try to concentrate mainly on a ``handful'' of lead members.


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`If police could successfully put behind bars, for a very long time, a few key leaders, I really believe the gangs would fall apart.'
- Prominent member of Toronto's Tamil community, requesting anonymity
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``If police could successfully put behind bars, for a very long time, a few key leaders, I really believe the gangs would fall apart,'' says one prominent member of Toronto's Tamil community.

Since 1997, at least five killings remain unsolved, all with innocent victims who police say were caught in the gangs' crossfire.

In 1997, 19-year-old University of Waterloo student Kapilan Palasanthiran was killed in a drive-by shooting while studying in a doughnut shop.

In 1998, Freddas ``Jim'' BwaBwa was stabbed to death in St. James Town when he tried to intervene in a fight. At least one of the suspects has gang ties. A year later, in 1999, Sandy Ebrahim was shot in a York Region fast food restaurant parking lot. Police believe the 16-year-old had been standing near the gang's intended target.

Last October's double homicide claimed the lives of teenagers Sujeevan Sritharan and Rishikesan Selvarajah. They were killed as they sat in a parking lot of a Scarborough building where gang members are thought to live.

Community sources say 18-year-old Sritharan was beaten up by gang members just a week before he was killed, but on the night of the killing he was mistaken as a member of the Guilder Boys, a gang affiliated with the VVT. The shooters were after someone with the street name ``Nari,'' meaning ``fox,'' who drove the same model of car.

In each case there are suspects, but no charges.

It was just after he arrived in Canada in 1992 that Kannan started his gang, police and community sources say. The 31-year-old named the gang after his nickname, Kannan, meaning god, and his love for the AK-47 assault weapon. But by the late 1990's, Kannan told community members and police that he no longer had any interest in the gang. He got married, had children and started a trucking company.

He lives, according to court documents, in a middle-class Scarborough neighbourhood near the Toronto Zoo. Most days, the blinds in the house are drawn. His trucking company is registered to an address in another Scarborough neighbourhood, near Brimley Rd. and Lawrence Ave. E., just south of the house. Police question whether Kannan ever left the gang and community members said that even if he wanted to, it would be difficult, since he would always be a target as the one-time leader of the AK Kannan.

If Kannan does manage to ever step down as leader, sources say Nagalingam, the ``Cat,'' is moving up in the AK Kannan ranks as is another member, Sivakumar Ariyarathnam.

The VVT's leadership has changed over the past few years but community sources say two of the old boys - Suresh Kanagalingam or ``Koli'' and Kailesh Thanabalasingham - are considered by most to be the leaders.

Koli (a nickname that originally started as ``goalie Suresh'' because of the position he plays in soccer but later got changed to Koli, which means ``chicken'' in Tamil) was charged last September following the beating and running down of a prominent AK Kannan member with a car. His charge of attempted murder is still before the courts. Now out on bail, he is scheduled to stand trial in December.

Like so many of the alleged gang members, Koli has been both a suspect and a victim. In 1998, he made headlines when he was abducted from a Parliament St. pizza shop. He surfaced days later, bruised and beaten but he would not say anything to police. Thanabalasingham is not as high-profile, described as more of a backroom figure who splits his time between Toronto and Ottawa.

Then there is Jeyaseelan Thuraisingam, the man who police say started the Seelapu gang and is simply called Seelapu himself. Police and community sources say his gang is aligned with the VVT. He said in an interview last month that he has left the gang now and lives east of the city in farm country.

Toronto police now downplay any connections between Toronto's street violence and the civil war in the members' homeland.

``The fact of the matter is people aren't involved in drive-by shootings in Toronto to further a cause back in Sri Lanka,'' an organized crime officer said.

Yet traditionally, law enforcement agencies, especially the RCMP, have connected some senior VVT members with Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a Sri Lankan rebel group designated a terrorist group by the U.S. Having cited this connection, police arrested two alleged gang bosses in 1998 and had them declared a danger to Canada. They were then ordered deported under the Immigration Act.

Both Srirajan Rasa and Niranjan Claude Fabian are appealing these orders, denying any connection to LTTE, according to court documents. Their lawyers also argue that since Canadian newspaper accounts of their clients' alleged connection to LTTE have been carried in Sri Lankan newspapers, the men will be tortured or killed if sent back. The outcome of their cases will be influenced by the decision, now being deliberated by nine Supreme Court justices, concerning Manickavasagam Suresh. He too was accused of raising funds for LTTE and claims he will be killed if returned to Sri Lanka. The decision on his case is not expected for months.

In Toronto, there are about 200,000 Tamils. But fewer than 100 are involved in Toronto street gangs, police say. That 0.05 per cent of the population feeds the racism and misconceptions the general public has about Toronto's Tamil community, various leaders complain.

``It's street violence, it's a criminal community, not the Tamil community. In so many ways it's exactly the same as the gangs that fight up at Kipling or other ones in Scarborough or even the bikers,'' said a veteran organized crime officer. ``We have to treat these gangs as organized crime because that's what they are.''

sam posted September 08, 2001 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sam   Click Here to Email sam     Edit Message
Karri,
"Toronto police now downplay any connections between Toronto's street violence and
the civil war in the members' homeland."

"In Toronto, there are about 200,000 Tamils. But fewer than 100 are involved in Toronto
street gangs, police say. That 0.05 per cent of the population feeds the racism and
misconceptions the general public has about Toronto's Tamil community, various
leaders complain."

The article itself says it all. There is no connection between LTTE and these criminal elements who are a tiny tiny minority of the Tamil population of Toronto. Even among them only a handful commits any crimes and the others just hang around with them. So what is the big deal?? Compared to other gangs such as Vietnamese, Italian etc the Tamil gangs activities are negigible. Also, aren't there any Sinhala criminal gangs is SL? Many.

karri kaputa 1 posted September 08, 2001 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karri kaputa 1     Edit Message
Sam you need to read the entire article in full to get the point. I agree with you that the its only a small percentage of people who commit these crimes but they like the LTTE bring a bad image to an entire community. Because of the mafia Italians in America also got a bad reputation.Here please grasp these two paragraphs before coming to any conclusion.

Yet traditionally, law enforcement agencies, especially the RCMP, have connected some senior VVT members with Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a Sri Lankan rebel group designated a terrorist group by the U.S. Having cited this connection, police arrested two alleged gang bosses in 1998 and had them declared a danger to Canada. They were then ordered deported under the Immigration Act.

Why are these two being deported? Look you can not hide the tiger stripes even if you take the bastards from the jungle.

Both Srirajan Rasa and Niranjan Claude Fabian are appealing these orders, denying any connection to LTTE, according to court documents. Their lawyers also argue that since Canadian newspaper accounts of their clients' alleged connection to LTTE have been carried in Sri Lankan newspapers, the men will be tortured or killed if sent back. The outcome of their cases will be influenced by the decision, now being deliberated by nine Supreme Court justices, concerning Manickavasagam Suresh. He too was accused of raising funds for LTTE and claims he will be killed if returned to Sri Lanka. The decision on his case is not expected for months.


Hammer posted September 08, 2001 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
Keep Canada clean from LTTE.

NORWAY posted September 09, 2001 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NORWAY   Click Here to Email NORWAY     Edit Message
DO SRI LANKA A FAVOUR, BOMB THE GOD DAMN DIS-FUNCTIONAL PARLIAMENT!!

Hammer posted September 09, 2001 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
Deport unproductive LTTE Tamils from Canada to TN?

They never grow up.

They don't spend money for Canadian Art, but pay money to collect Child Molester Prabhakaran's memorabilia.

Hammer posted September 09, 2001 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
Sam, did you say Nobody reads National Post?

Please visit www.nationalpost.com
and support them.

Over two million read the Post

The National Post continues to grow and, as it approaches its third anniversary, more than two million Canadians read it every week, according to independent figures yesterday from Newspaper Audience Databank Inc. (NADbank). (September 8, 2001)

sam posted September 09, 2001 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sam   Click Here to Email sam     Edit Message
"Sam you need to read the entire article in full to get the point. I agree with you that
the its only a small percentage of people who commit these crimes but they like the
LTTE bring a bad image to an entire community. Because of the mafia Italians in
America also got a bad reputation.Here please grasp these two paragraphs before
coming to any conclusion.

Yet traditionally, law enforcement agencies, especially the RCMP, have connected some
senior VVT members with Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a Sri Lankan rebel
group designated a terrorist group by the U.S. Having cited this connection, police
arrested two alleged gang bosses in 1998 and had them declared a danger to Canada.
They were then ordered deported under the Immigration Act."

Kariya,
LTTE is the pride of Tamil people and the hope of all oppressed people looking for an example around the world. Your SLG and the SL forces the scum of this earth.

In Canada, being an LTTE member is not a problem. But being a member of an foreign armed group and commit crime is serious offence because the Canadian govt do not want somebody else's war in their own soil. That is why they do not care about any LTTE events such as 'heroes week' taking place in Toronto but go after people who commit crime.

The RCMP tried to establish a connection between VVT members and LTTE in 1998. But now the Toronto police downplays this. So it is clear that there is no connection between the gangs and LTTE.

[This message has been edited by sam (edited September 09, 2001).]

indran posted September 10, 2001 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indran   Click Here to Email indran     Edit Message
to all sinhala modayas:

All tamils are firm of believers of LTTE:

LTTE is a by product of sinhala injustice:

To hammer:
dont be jealous of tamils who r succeeding
in canada and funding LTTE:

dont u know what goes around comes around?

u ass-holes destroyed their homes, now its pay back time plus interest by funding LTTE.
so live with what u have created.

Hammer posted September 10, 2001 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hammer   Click Here to Email Hammer     Edit Message
What goes around comes around and stays around and screw around.

... I am talking about the curse on Tamils by LTTE.

Tamils can never escape from LTTE, they have been forced for war slavery to achieve Prabhakaran's dream.

sam posted September 10, 2001 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sam   Click Here to Email sam     Edit Message
Hammer,

"What goes around comes around and stays around and screw around.

... I am talking about the curse on Tamils by LTTE.

Tamils can never escape from LTTE, they have been forced for war slavery to achieve
Prabhakaran's dream."

ha ha ha. Trying s....o desparately to separate the Tamils from the LTTE ha. The divide and conquer has been used by the British for hundreds of years successfully and everybody knows what it is very well.
Besides that a Sinhalaya trying to fool the Tamils???? May be he can fool a monkey.

Hon.V.Prabhakaran is
for the people
By the people

It is the upper class Sinhalese in Colombo who are gaining by the sending the poor Sinhala 'amudes' to a losing war.

thadhasinhalaya posted September 10, 2001 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thadhasinhalaya   Click Here to Email thadhasinhalaya     Edit Message
"It is the upper class Sinhalese in Colombo who are gaining by the sending the poor Sinhala 'amudes' to a losing war. " - sam your hoiler-than-thou attitude is funny - coming from a Tamil expat/non-resident of SL who is supporting/financing the LTTE - who are also partly responsible for the death of thousands of POOR Tamil children used by VP as human fodder?

indran posted September 11, 2001 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indran   Click Here to Email indran     Edit Message
to all sinhala modayas:

Tamil youths killed by who?...The last time i recall it was the SLA killign innocent kids in North....

WARNING: to all sinhala modayas, if u all havent been to North, dont talk about it...
dont talk about something u have no clue of

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