UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
  InfoLanka Forum
  Peace Web
  Sweetness of

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Author Topic:   Sweetness of
Drwho1 posted March 22, 2001 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drwho1     Edit Message
Just talk about lingustic,

English - smart Language (You could listen smartness of the lingustic

French - Romantic Language( I do not have the experience, but people said)

Tamil - Sweet Language, When listen , you could feel. But some people could not accept, because of it is not their tongue. I could say them , One proverb in tamil as Kalutai ariuma kapura vasanai?, translation as 'does donkey know(feel) good smell?

German - rough Language, so roughness of lingustic.

Chinese - No way to comment.

Sinhala - Is it sweet lingustic? I do not want to answer that. Others know Sinhala better than me, in the forum

[This message has been edited by Drwho1 (edited March 22, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Drwho1 (edited April 03, 2001).]

EelamRanjan posted March 22, 2001 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EelamRanjan   Click Here to Email EelamRanjan     Edit Message
Only thing I know of Sinhala is that IT IS VERY VERY EASY TO LEARN, EVEN BY HEARING SOMEONE Talking, atleast the spoken part, I know I did by just Talking to my Sinhala Punchi Amme Here. But, no way it is a sweet language, I would say it is a very ROUGH Language as the GERMAN. The reason it is easy to learn because Sinhala Speaks their every world FULLY[ I don't thing they have any other choice] but, we Tamils say half the words and swallow half the words, therefore harder for someone other than Tamil to GRAB.

Do you know another Tamil Phrase: "Tamilukkum Amutnemtru Peer"

Ranjan

[This message has been edited by EelamRanjan (edited March 22, 2001).]

SpeedyGonzalez posted March 22, 2001 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpeedyGonzalez   Click Here to Email SpeedyGonzalez     Edit Message
Kaluthai ariyuma karpoora vasanai!

Haha...you're right Drwho1!

SpeedyGonzalez posted March 22, 2001 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpeedyGonzalez   Click Here to Email SpeedyGonzalez     Edit Message
In Praise of Tamil
Maha Kavi Subramania Bharathiyar

Of languages
known to us, none
as sweet as Tamil.
Viewed as but slaves
or animals
by the world.
only the name 'Tamil'
redeems us.
Is it right?
Honey-sweet Tamil
should resound
o'er the earth.

Among poets of fame,
none like Kamban,
Valluvar, Ilango,
anywhere on earth.
No self-praise this
but the truth.
Yet are we dumb, deaf
and blind.
Listen!
For an assured future,
let Tamil ring again
in every street.

The hour's need: both
translation of
learned tomes,
and new creations
of deathless fame
in Tamil.
No more prattling
among ourselves
of past glory;
but compel world critics
acclaim our
poetic gems.

Words glow with life
when the truth-flame
shines in the heart.
As arts and poesy,
like rivers in spate,
rush forth,
the blind who wallowed
in ignorance
shall wake up.
The taste of sweet Tamil
can give on earth
the joy divine.

(Translated by Prema Nandakumar in Poems of Subramania Bharathi)


deva posted March 22, 2001 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deva   Click Here to Email deva     Edit Message
Tamil language could be a good language and sweet language too. But in most of the tamil films I find lots of English words. This means to me that Tamil usage is bit difficult. Hindi films are very attractive because of its sweet language. Sinhala is a very rich language which produced many competent authors like Veedaga Maithriya thero , Gurulugomi etc. I adivice you tamils to read sinhalese poems like "Subasithaya" , "Guththila Kavya" , "Lowada Sangarawa" to understand the sweetness and richness of Sinhala language. Most of you don't know sinhalese and can't think of its richness. I think Tamil language is a rich language but my knowledge of Tamil is limited and can't comment on that. Anyway tamil language's sweetness is bit unacceptable to me (I don't want to comapare our languages and feel my tamil friends hurt).

Website posted March 23, 2001 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Website     Edit Message
In my personal opinion, Sinhala has got to be the "funny" langauge. I think it has got to be one of the best langauges for talking, especially informally. There are so many discriptive phrases and words that cannot be replicated in the English language. Indians who hang out with us Lankans over here even pick up Sinhala and use it because it's great for conversing...and easy to learn

eg.

Machang (all the Indians have picked up this word from Lankans)
Aiya | Malli | Akka | Nangi
Aiyo (Same here - popular with Indians who hang out with Lankans)
Patas!
Bang | ou Bang | Naa bung
Ivarai!
Anthimai!
Kabalma kabal!
jaarava!
kana-palende theneva
Aney | Aney pau
maarai | maarai neh
sha!
pissu the? Na hati..pissuwe hati
paleyang yande
gona
haraka
bathali
pissu yakek
yanewa yande oi!
Chikeeya | Ikeeya
Gobbaya
Modaya
Mat-ta
mole podak upset
rasthiadu karaya
kalu sud-da
Oul wela
Vareng
Umba
Thamuse
Ou | E-ka | E-ki
amata-siri
maru
ething?
aparaade!
monaada ap-pa!
hathi-danawa
yatigiriyeng kaagahanava
diva kahanawa | ugura kahanava
tha-daang! | Ba-daang!
yamang
aney-manda
sapa-saneepa
aney-athemai
berihang-dunna | deneva
ban-na
Thada vunaa | veneva
deneva
ganing
pandithai | pandithaya
yoodaya
badu
peretheya

Things like:

Kohede yanne? Iserehata | niwanata | vayasete
Maduruwoo kanawa! Ai maduruwoo kanne? - paang kaal-lak kanda.

The above are just a FEW words and phrases that aren't available in the English language, or sound extremely stilted when translated to English...can u think of more?

Then there are the horribly rude ones which are still funny, of which I'm not going to mention because most Sinhalese know these words.

Anyway, if Sinhala has to be given a label, I'd call it the "fun language" - that's why its THE best language for baila (English does NOT suit baila at all and could you imagine French or Hindi baila? Hmmm...).


From C.T Fernando's Baila song Paravunu Mal which u can find at Miyuru Gee, Infolanka:

Paravunu mal navatha nathey pipen-ney
Gangul thale natha harila galan-ney
Davasak gatha una giyaa
Hiruever gilee giyaa
samadaa natha sanda payan-ney!

my translation:

Faded flowers do not bloom again
The river never turns around and flows backwards
A day arose and ended
The sunlight waned and was swallowed (sunset)
The sun does not shine every day!

Now try singing such a beautiful meaning in a fast beat in English...it sounds stupid and stilted doesn't it? But it sounds fantastic in Sinhala.

I would give Sinhala the label of the 'fun language'.

thadhasinhalaya posted March 24, 2001 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thadhasinhalaya   Click Here to Email thadhasinhalaya     Edit Message
hehehe ... i like it!!!

thadhasinhalaya posted March 24, 2001 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thadhasinhalaya   Click Here to Email thadhasinhalaya     Edit Message
hehehe ... i like it!!!

Website posted March 24, 2001 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Website     Edit Message
An interesting article by Carl Muller which I posted at the Culture and Nature forum:

"...Never in all my days have I found a language so succulent as Sinhala."

http://www.infolanka.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000030.html

SpeedyGonzalez posted March 24, 2001 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpeedyGonzalez   Click Here to Email SpeedyGonzalez     Edit Message
Another interesting article on the Tamil language by Professor George Hart from the University of California at Berkeley:
Status of Tamil as a Classical Language

Some interesting excerpts:

"First, Tamil is of considerable antiquity. It predates the literatures of other modern Indian languages by more than a thousand years. Its oldest work, the Tolkappiyam, contains parts that, judging from the earliest Tamil inscriptions, date back to about 200 BCE. The greatest works of ancient Tamil, the Sangam anthologies and the Pattuppattu, date to the first two centuries of the current era. They are the first great secular body of poetry written in India, predating Kalidasa's works by two hundred years."

"Second, Tamil constitutes the only literary tradition indigenous to India that is not derived from Sanskrit. Indeed, its literature arose before the influence of Sanskrit in the South became strong and so is qualitatively different from anything we have in Sanskrit or other Indian languages. It has its own poetic theory, its own grammatical tradition, its own aesthetics, and, above all, a large body of literature that is quite unique. It shows a sort of Indian sensibility that is quite different from anything in Sanskrit or other Indian languages, and it contains its own extremely rich and vast intellectual tradition."

"Third, the quality of classical Tamil literature is such that it is fit to stand beside the great literatures of Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, Chinese, Persian and Arabic. The subtlety and profundity of its works, their varied scope (Tamil is the only premodern Indian literature to treat the subaltern extensively), and their universality qualify Tamil to stand as one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world. Everyone knows the Tirukkural, one of the world's greatest works on ethics; but this is merely one of a myriad of major and extremely varied works that comprise the Tamil classical tradition. There is not a facet of human existence that is not explored and illuminated by this great literature."

[This message has been edited by SpeedyGonzalez (edited March 24, 2001).]

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Thread ClosedTo close this thread, click here (moderator or admin only).

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.34
© Madrona Park, Inc., 1998 - 1999.