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NORWAY posted March 11, 2001 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NORWAY   Click Here to Email NORWAY     Edit Message
Giant Buddha statues blown up

The statues had stood guard over the Bamiyan valley for centuries

Afghanistan's ruling Taleban have destroyed the two giant Buddha statues which the international community has been trying to save, independent reports say.
But the Taleban's foreign minister, Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, told UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan in Pakistan that demolition was still continuing, though not much of the ancient treasures left was left.

Mr Annan said he was also told that the Taleban had destroyed all the country's moveable statues.

The great Buddhas in the central province of Bamiyan were blown up by dynamite, under the supervision of the defence minister, as the fundamentalist Islamic authorities had promised.

Anti-Taleban protests have been held around the world

While the Taleban say they acted because the statues were "un-Islamic", a delegation from the world's largest Muslim body, the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) had travelled to Afghanistan to try to change their minds.

UN cultural envoy Pierre LaFrance described the destruction of the Buddhas as a great loss for world heritage.

The extent of the damage is hard to confirm as the militia have blocked journalists from visiting the province.

Irreplaceable monument to past age

The statues were unique. The taller of the pair stood at 53 metres (125 feet) high, the biggest Buddha in the world.

The monuments, once a big tourist draw, dated back to between the second and fifth centuries AD, before the coming of Islam, when Afghanistan was a centre of Buddhist learning and pilgrimage.


Aid workers say the remains of the statues are now lying at the foot of the huge sandstone cliff where they stood.

In recent days, delegations from Japan, Sri Lanka and Pakistan have all pleaded with the Taleban to halt their plans but to no avail.

Throughout Islam's history in Afghanistan the statues were preserved and no Muslim doctrine has suggested their destruction

Egyptian religious leader
Mr Annan called the statues part of the common heritage of mankind, and described as lamentable the Taleban decision to destroy them.

And Egypt's top religious leader, Mufti Sheikh Nasr Farid Wassel, who is travelling with the OIC delegation, said:

"The proof that these statues have no negative impact on Islam is that throughout Islam's history in Afghanistan they were preserved and no Muslim doctrine has suggested their destruction."

Discussion ruled out

But Taleban officials warned that they would not give in to pressure to reverse their decision.

"When they visit Afghanistan, we will welcome them. But the decision to demolish the statues will not be a topic for discussion," said information minister Qodrat Allah Jamal.

The order to smash the statues was issued a month after the UN imposed new sanctions against the Taleban, aimed mainly to force them to hand over Saudi militant Osama bin Laden, who is accused of blowing up two US embassies.

But Mr Muttawakil ruled out speculation the statues were being destroyed in revenge for Afghanistan's international isolation.

"There is no link between this or any political issue," he said.

"It is our internal issue and has no political justification."

deva posted March 12, 2001 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deva   Click Here to Email deva     Edit Message
Taliban's this action is not new to Sri Lankan Buddhists. TULF and LTTE together destroyed most of our buddhist heritage from the North and East few years before. Still they are doing it fiercely. LTTE and its coward supporters should understand that Sinhala Buddhist culture can not be eradicated from SL and the world by this kind of actions.

tino posted March 12, 2001 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tino     Edit Message
Norway, how could u be so insensitive......
It's such a shame that the statutes are being destroyed... such priceless artifacts!

Deva,
Please stop comparing LTTE to the Taliban regime... u know it's not true.

SL should have seen this coming.. after all it is of the closest's neighbour to Afganistan and maybe it could do more to prevent it.

NORWAY posted March 12, 2001 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NORWAY   Click Here to Email NORWAY     Edit Message
Hi Tino,

by the way your Buddhist temple in Jaffna is STILL there, none of us have destroyed yet and we will never be, unless your Killer Plans dropped bomb on it, accidentley.

NOW QUESTIONS:

NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE TAMILS HAVE FELT WHEN YOU BURNED OUR PRICELESS JAFFNA LIBRARY, NAVALI CHURCH WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE INSIDE AND MANY MANY HINDU TEMPLES IN TAMIL EELAM.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TAMIL HOUSES YOU ARMY BULDOZERED IN JAFFNA SO THEY CAN HAVE A CLEAR VIEW FROM THE BASES?

Do you think our Priceless things are LESS priceless than your BUDDHA

You know what they say, GOES AROUND...COMES AROUND

NORWAY posted March 12, 2001 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NORWAY   Click Here to Email NORWAY     Edit Message
Tino,

Open your FUCK'n mouth and say something!!

Riaz posted March 12, 2001 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Riaz     Edit Message
NORWAY, not all Tamils are as uncultred as you, so don't expect everyone to stoop down to your level.

Website posted March 12, 2001 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Website     Edit Message
Norway, the Buddhist temple in Jaffna was destroyed by the LTTE and racist Tamil gangs. The government had to rebuild it from scratch once it took over the peninsula. Please don't lie. The funny thing is the LTTE BANNED the Nallur festival while Jaffna was under its control....only after the governmetn took over was this Hindu festival allowed to be celebrated inn all its glory...why did the LTTE ban the religious festival?

Sarvodaya is a organisation based on Buddhist values and crated by Buddhist Sinhalese. This organisation has sponsored so many Hindu Temples, provided water to Tamils and helped get their lives back on track...yet Tamils have only destroyed and attacked everything remotely connected with the Sinhalese.

tino posted March 13, 2001 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tino     Edit Message
Norway,

We should not harbour any ill feelings towards those who destroyed the Jaffna Library...... it's their sheer ingnorance and stupidy that made them do it and now it's the same in Afganistan. Don't stoop to their level or we may be no different from them.

You know what they say, GOES AROUND...COMES AROUND

I totaly agree with you on this.

NORWAY posted March 13, 2001 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NORWAY   Click Here to Email NORWAY     Edit Message
Well for us,

It already came around in the form of Jaffna Library, Navaly Churh, Many Mnay hidu Temples and uncounteble houses and building in Tamil Eelam, at one time, The DAMN army buldozed every single houses in Valvettitura so they can have a clear view of the attacking tigers, mother fuckers.

So basically, damage was already done to Tamil Eelam and Tamil People, and There IS NOTHING MUCH TO COMES AROUND AND GOES AROUND as far a Tamil People of Tamil Eelam is concern.

satan posted March 13, 2001 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for satan     Edit Message
Hello my merry men. I see that you are keeping up the good work.
Ah you LTTE.What a meal your souls will make for me. I look forward to the time we will spend together when you come to the place that I have prepared for you.

As you realize that you no longer have to worry about your eternal destination you will see that your hopes of heaven are futile and you can stop needlessly worrying yourself about who owns your hearts and minds, your mud body and your immortal soul. Follow your current course and they are all mine.

To the leader of the LTTE...
Oh my darling, the apple of my eye. How I love the things you bring about in the world, it is exquisite. I hope that you are taking time inthis lull in the fighting to rearm yourself. You are my Pope on earth with all my Cardinals around the world. We are catching so many souls there is a backlog at the gates of hell. Thank you.

Speak to you soon VP. Maybe down here if things go badly for you.

SpeedyGonzalez posted March 15, 2001 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpeedyGonzalez   Click Here to Email SpeedyGonzalez     Edit Message
NORWAY, I think thats a stupid remark you made about the blowing up of such cultural icons.

If my comments are worth anything, I unreservedly condemn the Taliban for their misguided application of Islamic laws in the case of the Bamiyan statues. Its a crime against humanity itself that such statues should fall prey to such fundamentalist ideas.

While I support the efforts in Sri Lanka by monks, government and the press to try and avert the inevitable, it saddens me that not even 1% of the effort being spent on preserving the Buddhist statues in Bamiyan is spent on preserving the temples and churches. While the government, press and all are so outraged by the demolition of Buddhist statues in a faraway country, the same government, press and monks maintain a stony silence at best and encourage, at worst, the destruction of Hindu kovils and Christian churches in their "own" country.

What tragic times we live in.

[This message has been edited by SpeedyGonzalez (edited March 15, 2001).]

deva posted March 15, 2001 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deva   Click Here to Email deva     Edit Message
Gonzal,
As you said NORWAY made a very stupid post. It is an act of uncivilsed man. But oppotunistically you used his post to critisize buddhist monks. It is a well known fact that temples , churchs and kovils are damaged in the North & East. Kovils and churches became damaged after the war. But long before that tamil politicians in North and East started to destroy buddhist statues , temples and sacred Bo trees. Even today most of the kovils and churches were damaged by LTTE. They use these sacred places for their military actions and expose them for destruction. Anyway big thank should be debitted to SLA for securing these places at their level best.
When madu church was under Army's control people could go there. When LTTE captured the area it was a restricted area for people. This is how LTTE is playing with the religious faith of people.
If the churches and kovils are being destryed in North then the main reason for it is LTTE.
Buddhist monks hold mass rallies against LTTE. They know it is possible to sefegurad these sacred places by defeating LTTE.

SpeedyGonzalez posted March 15, 2001 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpeedyGonzalez   Click Here to Email SpeedyGonzalez     Edit Message
"But long before that tamil politicians in North and East started to destroy buddhist statues , temples and sacred Bo trees."

Is that right? Thanks for your attempt at misinforming the readers, but better luck next time.

Here's the list of temples damaged by the '83 riots:

Viswanatha Sivan Temple in Trincomalee
Krishnan Temple in Trincomalee
Saneeswaran Temple in Trincomalee
Natesar Temple in Sivayogapuram, Trincomalee
Sri Tillaiambala Pillaiyar Temple in Anbuvalipuram,Trincomalee
Chithivinayakar Temple in Sinnatoduvai, Trincomalee
Vilankulam Pillaiyar Temple on Kandy Road, Trincomalee
Vyrutru Pillaiyar Temple on Kandy Road, Trincomalee
Pillaiyar Temple in China Bay, Trincomalee
Upparu Pillaiyar Temple in Trincomalee
Kitulootra Pallaiyar Temple in Kanniyai, Trincomalee
Kitulootra Murugan Temple in Trincomalee
Barathipuram Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
Mudalikulam Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
Ellai Kali Kovil in Pankulam, Trincomalee
Pillaiyar Temple in Panmadawachchi, Trincomalee
Papanasa Teertapillaiyar Temple in Trincomalee
Sri Pathini Amman Temple in Neelapalai, Kilivetti
Sri Kamakshi Ambal Temple in Jaffna
Saiva Maha Sabha in Kurunegala
Udupi Sri Muthuvinayakar Temple in Matale
Sri Muthumari Amman Temple in Matale
Muthuvinayakar Temple in Matale
Sri Chithivinayakar Temple in Matale
Sri Kadiresan Temple in Matale
Sri Poobalakrishnar Ashram in Matale
Sri Ganga Vinayakar Temple in Madulkelle
Kurinji Kumaran Temple, Peradeniya
Sri Muthumariamman Temple in Nawalapitya
Atmajothy Nilayam in Nawalapitiya
Athivinayakar Temple in Haldumulla, Haputale
Sri Sivasubramanya Temple in Bandarawela
Sri Kadiresan Temple in Badulla
Hindu Temple in Malangama, Badulla
Hindu Temple in Narangala, Badulla
Kali Temple in Rockhill, Badulla
Sri Poobalavinayakar Temple in Peliyagoda
Sri Balaselvavinayakar Temple in Maradana, Colombo
Sri Devi Karumari Amman Temple in Maligawatte, Colombo
Venkateswara Mahavishnu Moorthy Temple in Dehiwala, Colombo
Srimath Arunachaleswara Devasthanam in Colombo
Ramakrishna Mission, Colombo
Kandasamy Temple in Panadura
Sri Subramanya Temple in Matara
Hindu Pilgrims' Rest in Matara

''In Colombo, it was the season of the annual Vel cart festival, which coincides with the Katargama festival season, and attracts to it all the castes and all the classes and all the races of Sri Lanka. The Vel Cart had come from Pettah to the Bambalapitiya (Hindu) temple when the disturbances broke. The chariot was set on fire.'' (N.Shanmugathasan,Sri Lanka: Racism and the Authoritarian State - Race and Class, Volume XXVI, A.Sivanandan and Hazel Waters, Institute of Race Relations, London)

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